A&E suspends ‘Duck Dynasty’ star for ‘unacceptable’ views on gays; conservatives rally

The patriarch of the A&E series “Duck Dynasty” is in the middle of an entertainment world firestorm after being indefinitely suspended from the hit show over a magazine interview where he condemned homosexual sex.

philrobertson1219According to the Hollywood Reporter, A&E issued a statement late Wednesday branding “Duck Dynasty” star Phil Robertson’s statements to GQ unacceptable and indicated beliefs that “in no way reflect those of A&E Networks, who [sic] have always been strong supporters and champions of the LGBT community.”

“The network has placed Phil under indefinite hiatus,” the statement said.

In the GQ interview, Robertson called homosexual activity not only sinful, but illogical.

“It seems like, to me, a vagina — as a man — would be more desirable than a man’s anus,” Robertson said. “That’s just me. I’m just thinking: There’s more there! She’s got more to offer. I mean, come on, dudes! You know what I’m saying? But hey, sin: It’s not logical, my man. It’s just not logical.”

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He paraphrased the Bible’s condemnation of the practice.

“Don’t be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers — they won’t inherit the kingdom of God,” he told the magazine. “Don’t deceive yourself. It’s not right.”

The comment drew its own condemnation from the gay activist group GLAAD, which issued a statement Wednesday accusing Robertson of engaging in “vile and extreme stereotypes” of gay people.

On Wednesday, Robertson issued his own statement that didn’t deny the comments to GQ, but said he was only performing a duty to spread the word of the Bible.

“I myself am a product of the ’60s; I centered my life around sex, drugs and rock and roll until I hit rock bottom and accepted Jesus as my Savior. My mission today is to go forth and tell people about why I follow Christ and also what the Bible teaches, and part of that teaching is that women and men are meant to be together,” the statement said.

“However, I would never treat anyone with disrespect just because they are different from me. We are all created by the Almighty and like Him, I love all of humanity. We would all be better off if we loved God and loved each other.”

In a statement released after Robertson’s suspension, GLAAD praised A&E for squelching “unacceptable” views.

“What’s clear is that such hateful anti-gay comments are unacceptable to fans, viewers, and networks alike,” the statement said, according to the Hollywood Reporter. “By taking quick action and removing Robertson from future filming, A&E has sent a strong message that discrimination is neither a Christian nor an American value.”

But conservatives reacted quickly, taking to Twitter to support Robertson and criticize the suspension.

Here’s a sample from Twitchy.

 

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  • http://kankurosdoll.deviantart.com/ Pookaloo

    I stand with Phil on this. If you’re going to be one of God’s children, you do not waver, you do not bend to ANY man’s will. It doesn’t matter how bad it destroys you, you stick with Jesus and God!

    • Chris Bowen

      Except Jesus and God said you are not allowed to judge, so he did not stick with Jesus.

      • Jerry

        Typical queer reply. It is not judging when you just quote the bible. You keep trying to justify that abomination by hiding behind your comment. and you keep cherry picking your bible verses. God also said tell them 2 times and after that have nothing to do with them.

        • Chris Bowen

          Typical logical fallacy reply. For one thing I am not gay. Second he did not quote the bible he state an opinion in which he judged people. You don’t get to judge people and then run back and say, well the bible says it, so I am not judging you, God is, no you are still judging yourself. Your last quote has nothing to do with people who are doing things the bible says are sinning, but with people who stir up division, which is what Robinson was doing.

          • Terra Pennington

            Guess you have not read Leviticus 18 or Romans 1-27-28.

          • JoeSixpaq

            If you’re living in accordance with Leviticus, I hope you don’t eat shrimp, wear clothes made of mixed fabrics, or get tattoos.

          • Karlly

            Jews were not allowed to do some things, which became customs, that did not and does not apply to Gentiles. Sin, on the other hand, is not allowed period and the Bible states what those sins are! True Christians try to live God’s Word every day and the main thing is believe Jesus is your Lord and Savior and keep prayed up and repented up.

          • Doug Daumueller

            Why didn’t Jesus mention homosexuality as a sin. The only place you find it is in the Old Testament. You know the book written by the most primitive people. I still find it hard to believe people think being homosexual is a conscious choice. If that were the case you could call it a sin. These people are born homosexual, the way god made them. Is God a sinner? Who would choose to be singled out and discriminated against. You so called Christians really need to look inside your own hearts and try to figure out why you feel the need to pass judgement on others then hide behind the Bible.

          • Candyman101

            If you read the writings of Paul in the New Testament, he very specifically condemns homosexuality, and all other kinds of immorality outside of marriage. And that marriage he referred to was between a man and a woman.

          • Doug Daumueller

            Paul was quoting Jesus? I call b.s.

          • Robert12Disqus

            you’ll have an opportunity to discuss that with your Creator at your judgment, but i doubt you’ll be talking like you have to your Creator… might want to come to your senses and consider just who your Creator is… =)

          • Doug Daumueller

            That is correct.I am at peace with my situation. I do not live in fear like the born again Christians. What kind of God is that? You should worry about your judgement day and not worry about others.

          • ort

            Who exactly do you think Jesus is??? Jesus IS God! God prohibits homosexuality and all your insistence to the contrary doesn’t matter one bit.

          • reinhold

            NO! You need to look inside your own heart. Professing to be wise they [the defiant sinners] became as fools.

            These Christian do not and can not pass judgement. The declaration is an admonishment. Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees! Defend the synagogues of Satan at your peril.

          • GlennBillings

            Doug you said, “These people are born homosexual, the way god made them”. If you accept the Bible as the written word of God, then you would know that that is completely incorrect and illogical. God’s people living in the times of the OT were not just “primitive people”. They were living according to the laws handed down from God. If they had “been born that way” and condemned by GOD then that would be illogical. As it turns out they were not only condemned by GOD, they were also executed for their behavior. It is also not logical because an anus is NOT a sexual organ. It is not structured for sex. It has dangerous bacteria no meant for exposure from a man’s penis. The vagina is the only sexual organ on a woman because it fluids meant to keep it flushed. No other animals commit homosexual sex. So the act of homosexual sex is not only a SIN, it is ILLOGICAL and UNNATURAL. BTW, you can not prove some one is BORN homosexual.

          • ellowe13

            Wrong on numerous accounts…there are over 300 animals currently living on this planet that are homosexual…however, the only one’s passing judgement are the two legged kind.

          • GlennBillings

            Wrong. The behavior is not homosexual as in the human homosexuality. I doubt there is any actual annul (or oral) copulation either. What is only observed is par-bonding or expressions of dominance. ellowe13, You also missed another reference in 1st Corinthians ( I Corinthians 6:9-11) where Paul was speaking to some of the EX-homosexuals, fornicators, and idolators NOT to go back to evil ways. Remember, Paul was also an Apostle carries the word of God in his guidance. Homosexuality is NOT a condition that science can ever prove, but a deviant behavior that whose acceptability is “rammed down the throats” by liberal activists.. God says there are certain behaviors that if you perform you will suffer the consequences with your own body.The practice of homosexuality is one of them.

          • Wraith Against RichOligarchy

            Still according to the natural order of biology, backed by natural selection, those animals are going to go into extinction, so, still, it is unnatural, & it does go against nature itself. An all queer species will
            cease to exist. This is backed up by science itself. Only mankind is arrogant enough to go against the Natural Order of Biology.

            Sorry to say, but you are promoting human population control.

          • disqus_GYXQ8Ms8Zk

            God gave Man, (Humans) dominion over all other creatures, not for humans to do what some lower creatures do. That would be just imitating and not classified as a way of life as liberals want to put it.

          • Steve Z

            God didn’t give man dominion over all other creatures! That was technology and large brain. If it makes you feel better thinking “God” said it is ok to feel that you can dominate other life form then good for you.

          • Brian Davids

            Why didn’t Jesus say it was ok either?

          • Wraith Against RichOligarchy

            It was understood for many millennia that a marriage was between a man & a woman, it is historically proven, and all ancient
            civilizations since the dawn of time have recognized it as such. Only in a few
            cases like in Sodom & Gomorra homosexuality has been registered. Jesus
            being a Jew himself & a student of the law understood that a marriage was
            between a man & a woman; you should do your own research.

          • ort

            The Holy Spirit influenced all the writers of the old and new testaments. Nowhere in either does it say that homosexuality, drunkenness, lying, fornication, murder or theft is ok.
            Now you are just being foolish.

          • ellowe13

            And the first commandment says…thou shalt not kill…how many Christians do you think have broken THAT one?!

          • ort

            Actually, it’s the 6th commandment that says “thou shalt not murder”.

            The 1st commandment is “you shall have no other gods before Me.”

            Secondly, are you saying that murder is worse if a person CLAIMS they are a Christian? Ridiculous. Murder is murder.

            A real Christian doesn’t commit murder. A person can call themselves anything they want to, but actions speak louder than Words.
            I can sleep in the garage but that doesn’t make me a car–just like a person’s butt can warm a seat in church, but that doesn’t make them a saved believer.

          • Jerry

            All the ones that got abortions for starters.

          • GlennBillings

            I imagine there are a lot of Christians who have committed murder. Not all killing by the way is murder. But even murder can be forgiven in the eyes of God. Jesus said in the Lord’s prayer, forgive me as I have forgiven others. But you have to stop committing murder to be forgiven of murder. But one keeps acting in an sexually immoral way and acquires an STD that kill him, he has reaped the judgement of God.

          • Valigator

            Curious about the “thou shall not kill” quote? I am in Broward county florida, ground zero for HIV transmission. To date there is no cure for this “deadly disease” its treated symptomatically and very expensive to all Americans. Medications today “mask” the virus to the point HIV positive persons can have NO symptons at all yet they continue to transmit this at unprecedented rates. Your statement “how many Christians do you think have broken that one? From where I sit? Not nearly as many as the Gay community for a couple of hours of sexual indulgement, so which is more acceptable?

          • Janet Bosley

            Everyone is born in sin but they CHOOSE the sin they practice. ” What is born of the flesh is flesh What is born of the Spirit is spirit” … New Testament verses (Jude 1:7 ) ( 2 Timothy 3:16 ) all Scripture is God breathed and written for reproof,correction . I agree one can not reprove or correct if they do not first know how to judge bad from good.
            (1 Corinthians 6:9 ) ( 1 Corinthians 7:2 )

          • Boatswas

            I’m guessing that you haven’t read the New Testament.

          • Boatswas

            As far as being born that way, numerous studies have shown that not to be true. Several studies which were only inclusive of identical twins, where (at least) one was gay, showed that while there is a higher occurrence of homosexuals in that case (11% as opposed to 3-4% in “normal” families), since the percentage isn’t heavy in the other direction (89% being both homosexual, or even 50-50), that precludes the claim of “born gay” or a “gay gene”. Remember, “Identical Twin” means the same DNA, RNA, chromosomes, genes, amniotic fluid intake, prenatal influences from mom and her surroundings.

            I’d say that the 11% shows more of an argument that homosexuality is a response to some sort of trauma.

            Additionally, scans of the brains of homosexuals show that the homosexuals’ brains respond to stimuli the same way that members of the opposite sex does. For years, that’s been used as “proof” that they were born that way. I’ve always countered that the scans show nothing other than current condition. It’s like taking a photo of your car after it’s been hit by a train, and trying to sue the dealership for selling you a faulty transport.

            Until they do long-term studies of *at least* 1,000 individuals, from prenatal stage until they’re adult and settled into their full adult selves, sexuality and all, and can show a direct line, with no outside interference or pressure, towards that sexuality, there will be no evidence to support a claim that homosexuals are born that way, instead of just sinners, like the rest of us, who have held to their particular sin.

            One must believe in a Creator, or in the evolution of the species. Either belief has laws which are commanded by that belief. Since, scientifically, the purpose of a member of a species, is to propagate that species, homosexuality violates the natural law. We all know that the Scriptures condemn it as an abomination; Jesus said (paraphrasing), we were created male and female for that reason, a man will leave his mother and become one with his wife.

          • disqus_GYXQ8Ms8Zk

            Relationship between a MAN and WOMAN

            plus you were given the sense to figure out what that mean’t !!!

          • Katherine McChesney

            That was required during Old Testament days. That does not apply to us. Condemning the filthy homosexual lifestyle is a proper judgement considering they spread nasty diseases by engaging in anal sex.

          • JoeSixpaq

            All that anti-gay crap comes from the Old Testament too. You people sure like to pick and choose form Leviticus. Tell me – what does the New Testament have to say about homosexuality? What did Jesus say about it? (here’s a hint: NOTHING).

          • Katherine McChesney

            Jesus taught about sin. And homosexual perversion is one of the worst sins. They are often pedophiles. Their craving for deviant sex is filthy. Same sex relationships are abnormal and self-worship. They have given over to filthy minds and filthy actions.

          • JoeSixpaq

            So since you can’t some up with one single thing Jesus said about homosexuality, you’re going for the pretzel logic approach? Nice try, but FAIL. Believe what you want, but everything you’ve just said is bull.

          • wingsandreverie

            Positively, Jesus affirmed the Mosaic on marriage as between a man and a woman
            (Matthew 5:32ff; Mark 10:7-11, et al). Jesus’ morality was more a
            positive assertion than a negative delineation. Jesus gave us a positive
            vision of sexuality and marriage, which is a man and woman in
            consensual, lifelong commitment. What falls short of the positive ideal
            is “sin.” In fact, that’s literally what the Greek word for sin (hamar)
            means: “to fall short of the mark.” Thus, any form of sexual deviation
            from that (polygamy, homosexuality, sex outside of marriage) is
            considered sinful.

          • JoeSixpaq

            So, even though Jesus never condemned them, you do. So much for WWJD.

          • wingsandreverie

            “God gave them up to degrading passions. Their women exchanged natural
            intercourse for unnatural, and in the same way also the men, giving up
            natural intercourse with women, were consumed with passion for one
            another. Men committed shameless acts with men.” (Romans 1:26-27)

          • Brennan Onesimus Williams

            KNOW THE WORD BEFORE YOU TRY SPEAKING THE LANGUAGE…
            Joh 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

          • tionico

            thick heads and stiff necks wll not get you anywhere. YOu just got TOLD what Jesus says about marriage. And He said “hasn’t it been THIS WAY since the beginning? What is THIS WAY? One man, one woman, committed in covenental marriage for life, and no sex outside of that relationship. Bang yer head against that as long as you want, but heaven and earth will pass away before THAT changes. Any further problems, take it up with Him…. the One who made you and has commanded certain things of you.

          • JoeSixpaq

            News flash, Chuckles: the Old Testament is full of polygamy, all of it sanctioned by god. This notion that marriage has always been one man, one woman is not biblical and it’s just plain not true.

          • reinhold

            The so-called “Old Testament” contains the history of sinners. Their conduct is not the construct of Law! Please apply reason rather than attempt to support your own witless folly. “Professing to be wise they (defiant sinners) became as fools.”.

          • ort

            Wrong! God never sanctioned it. Man did it contrary to what God said in Genesis. Why? Because man is sinful. Period. The Bible shows all of men’s folly and foibles and rebellion towards God. It has NEVER been whitewashed to only show every good deed done.

          • Janet Bosley

            News flash we have given you Scripture from the NT and There were certain things the Jews practice that was changed at Calvary . one husband for one wife is in the New Testament . And there are some things that were NOT nailed to the Tree at Calvary and that was the Ten Commands they can be found in the New Testament also like not having a god other than God that is the First commandment and God has not changed His mind and this one “children to obey their parents “. the law of oracles was nailed to the Tree but not the Ten Commandments Maybe you are not aware but the Ten Commandment was put in the Ark along with Aarons Rod and a certain amount of Manna . God commanded they be put there to be preserved for a reason,if the Ten Commandments were to be abolished God would have not had Moses to put them in the Ark .
            Mark 10:6-9 Yeshua ,God speaking here .. husband and wife began with Adam and Eve the two shall be one . Hello a man can not be a wife .God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve or Eve and marie. God joined Adam and Eve togather as Husband and Wife .. Woman was made for Man and God gave them a different anatomy so that they could accommodate . God created them both Male and Female.

          • Robert12Disqus

            sooooo the Word became flesh and dwelled among us and that was Jesus. since the whole Bible is the Word of God, and Jesus is the Word of God that became flesh – then anything in the Bible that condemns homosexuality stands.
            i’m thinking you need to do some studying of the Bible so you know what you’re talking about.

          • Janet Bosley

            WWJD is call sin sin and a Christian can not call a sin anything different than what it is ..and no one is born gay anymore than those who rape,molest,steal,lie,cheat and murder are born that way if they were there would not be one person in jail because they could use the excuse that they were born that way.

          • bpgagirl22VAnow

            THANK YOU! MAYBE THE OTHERS WILL SEE THIS AND READ IT!

          • Janet Bosley

            Right a man is to be the husband of one wife to leave father and mother and cleave unto his wife .. and love her as his own body for the two become one . JoeSixpaq needs to read Ephesians 5:31 and the other New Testament verses I posted.

          • GlennBillings

            JoeSixpaq as Janet quoted, the man and woman CLEAVED. NO WHERE DOES THE BIBLE EVER CONDONE TWO MEN CLEAVING TO EACH OTHER.

          • otaycec

            You need to read further in the New Testament: Romans 1:26-32; 1 Corinthians 6:9.

          • JoeSixpaq

            None of which matters because we do not live in a theocracy, so you do not get to call the shots for everyone by virtue of your mythology.

          • Janet Bosley

            God is not a myth and neither is His breathed Holy Word.
            And as Yeshua said to His Dicsiples ” AS MY FATHER SENT ME SO SEND I YOU .. and He also said go into the world and teach them all things I have commanded you. Did He not also say ” IF YOU LOVE ME YOU WILL KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS ” Christians were commanded to Occupy untill Yeshua returns. BTW SixPacq Yeshua is God and anything He said is a commandment not a suggestion. Yeshua died a very cruel death for you He loves you as much as He loves me because He died one death for all people and He said Whosoever may come , don’t you know that Yeshua is God and nothing is impossible for Him ,surrender your life to Him and He will deliver you from the bondage of sin . Not saying you will be sinless for not one Christian can claim that because no one but Yeshua ,God is perfect and I know in and of myself I am not perfect but He who dwells within He is perfect , I could no more get to Heaven on my own merits now than I could before Salvation, its not my merits that gets me into Heaven but what Yeshua did for me at Calvary ,He redeem me,He paid the cost for all lost,but to be save you must repent and believe and receive Yeshua as your Savior and Lord . I’m not perfect but I don’t practice sin .. I did not do good things to get save and don’t do them to stay save I do good because I am saved.

          • GlennBillings

            GEE that is funny. Telling the Creator He does not exist. The Universe could not have even existed if it weren’t for the God who created it. The God who existed before all space and time. Tell me how this universe come into existed BEFORE all matter and space and time? TELL ME HOW SOMETHING CAN COME INTO EXISTENCE FROM NOTHING. Science can’t even replicate the hypothesis is a lab experiment. God is no myth. Science can not prove that God does not exist and by inference I have proven he does.

          • Steve Z

            Nope I’m sorry but you have not proven God exists. Just because you say the universe could not exist if not for some mythical being doesn’t make it true. You cannot prove that God exists. Yours is a theory, the same as all the rest.

          • bamared2222

            Sometimes it is what he didnt say that matters. He strongly affirmed hetersexual marriage, leaving no other viable option. So in that sense, he didnt consider any other alternatives. He made it very clear, even going back to Genesis that God’s purpose in creating the pair was that they compliment each other in every respect and bring children into the world; hence “be fruitful and muliply.” By the way, if all couples were homosexual, how many generations of mankind would there be??? Sorry, YOU are the one who FAILS this one!

          • Janet Bosley

            God also made both male and female birds,animals and even plants,bees and trees are male and female else nothing would reproduce. Adam saw the animals paired up and God created him a wife and said its not good for man to be alone.Ya you I don’t think SixPacq really wants to except the truth because he knows once he does he will need to make some changes and thinks he can’t ..thats right he can’t only through God can we have changes in our thinking,speaking and our actions being moral.

          • bamared2222

            You are so right. They can’t handle the truth!

            Subject: Re: New comment posted on A& E suspends ‘ Duck Dynasty’ star for ‘ unacceptable’ views on gays; conservatives rally

          • Janet Bosley

            Look up the Scriptures I gave from the New Testament ..there are other verses as well.

          • Khris Kringle

            Do you actually know any homosexuals? Most likely not. I have known plenty of them and believe it or not, they are not any more filthy minded than heterosexuals, which have plenty of filthy minded, sick people. I would like to hear your source for claiming “they are often pedophiles”. I really don’t believe that. You say “homosexual perversion” is one of the worst sins. Really? Worse than the burning alive of 50 Christians that just happened in Nigeria? Worse than raping, torturing and then cutting somebody up into little pieces when they are still alive? give me a freaking break. Enough with your righteousness. If GOD hates homosexuals so much, why did he make them. And don’t tell me it’s a choice. Nobody makes that choice. And no, I am not a homosexual. Perhaps all of you are so offended by the evil homosexuals may make better use of your energy by helping fellow Christians being slaughtered around the world. http://www.legalizejesus.com/2012/07/18/50-christians-burned-alive-in-pastors-house/

          • reinhold

            The Homosexual Front is merely a tactic of te Synagogues of Satan to destroy all morality. By condemning homosexuality we merely recognize the progress of decadence.

            Not so long ago Christians opposed heterosexual perversion and promiscuity. This futile effort is has fallen by the same mechanism of ridicule.

            “Woe unto those that call good evil and evil good.”

            Read ” The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion,” Read also: “A Short History of The Balfour Declaration.” You will eventually come to realize that the war to destroy Christianity has several fronts. Sodomy has its consequence.

            Arrest, Abolish and Exterminate the Kosher Kabal of the Bogus Bank of Credit Fraud.

            “Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees.”

          • Wraith Against RichOligarchy

            Indeed…sodomy does have its consequences…I agree with you 101%,
            very true, & very clever as well…

          • Robert12Disqus

            people are people and the choice to be homosexual does not mean that person wasn’t created in the image of God or is of less value than anyone else on earth. the issue is our choices for which we will be judged. the standard our Creator has provided to us is the standard we will be judged against. so one can be a homosexual all day long, but insofar as having eternal life, a practicing homosexual and eternal life do not mix in our Creator’s eternity. wise is the person who accepts that our Creator has every right to expect certain behaviors from us and that there are penalties for rebels. and those penalties are quite extreme from our viewpoint, but quite fair from our Creator’s as each of our judgments will show…

          • Janet Bosley

            God did not create anyone homosexual any more than He created people to murder . God did not create homosexual’s,liars,thieves,molesters and murderers . God create Adam and Eve Male and Female having the right desire . Everyone is born in sin [not because of God ,but because Man(kind) Adam and Eve chose to rebel . Everyone is born in sin , but they choose the sin they practice. Man(kind) using their body for what is not natural its abomination and God said it I believe it and to differ is to call God a liar ..and the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom so I would think twice about calling God a liar because He did not create homosexuals they to spit on God and use their body in a way that mocks God .

          • bpgagirl22VAnow

            IF you will recall exactly what HE DID say is in regard to sexuality: to the Adulteress: “GO FORTH AND SIN NO MORE.”

          • Janet Bosley

            That is right Yeshua said ” go and sin no more ” He did not say go and sin some more . Once one repents believes and receives they no longer practice sin for who they were is not who they now are. But homosexuals are homosexuals as long as they refuse to repent and except Yeshua as their Savior and Lord. If one truely loves and cares they wil tell the one practicing sin they will die and burn forever in the Lake of fire if they continue . and there is some point in time when God will stop knowing on their hearts door and leave them to themselves and they will die in their sin .
            If you sawa car coming down the road and you knew the bridge was out just around the turn wouldn’t you care to warn them ..or just say its none of my business ..Well it is your business to tell homosexuals that they are practicing sin and should they die they would go straight to hell . Yeshua said to Mary ” Did you not know I was about My Fathers business” and Yeshua said ” As My Father sent Me so send I you” We ( Christians)were bought with a price we are not our own ,we are to be about the Lords business we are His ambassadors we are to represent Yeshua .

          • Khris Kringle

            Have you ever met a gay person? Probably not. I hate to break it to you but for the most part they are people just like you and me. Please site your source for “they are often pedophiles”. Do you know how many heterosexuals have filthy minds and participate in deviant sex? So what if homosexuals like it up the a**. Many heterosexuals like that too. If God hates them so much, why did he make them? Homosexuality is not a choice, they are born that way. Why don’t you Christians make better use of your time and energy and help your fellow Christians that are being slaughtered all over the world instead of worrying about what people do in the privacy of their own home? http://www.legalizejesus.com/2012/07/18/50-christians-burned-alive-in-pastors-house/

          • Constance OConnor

            Yes, exactly. Worry about your own backyards instead of your neighbor’s bedroom.

          • Doug Daumueller

            Katherine I am willing to bet anything that the majority of Pedophiles are heterosexual. Keep spreading the myth if it makes you feel better.

          • Constance OConnor

            I believe you are correct Doug.

          • Constance OConnor

            Pedophiles are attracted to children. What about consenting adults?

          • ellowe13

            NOT TRUE…the majority of pedophiles are WHITE, heterosexual males and interestingly enough, claim to be christian! Homosexuality has absolutely NOTHING to do with child molestation. You’ve been fed a load of hogwash.

          • Valigator

            Your comment they are often “pedophiles” is just not true. I do ALOT of research on this topic as sad as it is, Pedophiles should not be equated with being GAY. Unfortunately Pedophiles reach across the spectrum of sexual preferences..straight or Gay there are enough to go around regardless of sexual identity..

          • BAD BOB

            YOUR GAY

          • JoeSixpaq

            “Your” illiterate.

          • lather

            Most of these fools are.

          • SusieQ

            who’s “your”.

          • Blake

            In the end, pro gay anti Jesus people always result to insults.

          • JoeSixpaq

            You do realize that I was replying to a right winger who was attempting to insult me, right? It’s still there, in all its all-caps glory. Consistency and logic are not your strong suits. Calling wingnuts stupid isn’t an insult, it’s just a fact.

          • BAD BOB

            How you like your Obama care?

          • JoeSixpaq

            Hey, wow, look who learned how to turn off his caps lock! Congratulations – this is the most significant thing you’ve ever accomplished.

          • BAD BOB

            I’m 52 years old and I’ve seen a lot thru the years Joe dickpaq BUT WHEN IT COMES TO QUEERS I feel that the good lord will punish all who revel in those dark places. and I’m sure I have accomplished a hell of a lot more than you.

          • Doug Daumueller

            Hey Bob you will be right behind them with the cheery attitude you have. I think God has it under control. He does not need help from the likes of you. I assume accomplishing something in your book is money. What did Jesus say about the rich?

          • ellowe13

            Judging others are we? You do realize, being such a good christian and all, that God doesn’t want you judging his other creations…unless of course, you can legitimately live in a glass house and we all know the answer to that.

          • BAD BOB

            as a matter of fact if you are a leftist i’m sure i’m the one supporting you.

          • JoeSixpaq

            Yeah, right. I’m 45, and I’ve worked constantly since I was 15. I’v been unemployed for a grand total of about a year during that time, most of which was during college. The only government assistance I’ve ever received was in the form of student loans, which I repaid in full. What you’re “sure of” is a load of crap, but that’s hardly surprising.

          • ellowe13

            And then there’s the revelation that those living in RED states get more Federal assistance like food stamps and welfare, have less high school graduates and few higher educated residents than BLUE states…so it would seem that we’re supporting YOU!

          • Wraith Against RichOligarchy

            Not true, I live in an all controlled democratic, extreme leftist wing,
            progressive, socialist city, & these fine democrats are taxing the middle
            class like hell. Plus, they are killing democracy by omitting the votes of the
            people. A result of the lack of checks & balances of an all democratic
            controlled city hall. Our local government has become corrupted by extreme wing
            liberals. We are fed up of it…

          • BAD BOB

            GIRL YOU GOT LIFE SCREWED UP I GUESS ITS THE OBAMA IN YOU. THIER SAYING HE HAS A MISTRESS I THOUGHT IT WAS SOCIALISM BUT I GUESS ITS YOU INSTEAD.

          • Softballumpire

            What does obamacare have to do with someone being supened for hate speech.

          • Doug Daumueller

            I love it. Better coverage lower premium. I actually bothered to go to the exchange.

          • ellowe13

            And pray tell…what does health insurance have to do with THIS conversation?

          • Blake

            There you go again. Just can’t help it huh 6pac? Try making your point without insults. Bet you can’t.

          • JoeSixpaq

            Insults don’t seem to bother you when they come from your end of the political spectrum. I don’t see you criticizing “BAD BOB” for his insults.

            See, no insults! Just the truth about your hypocrisy.

          • Blake

            Your comments got my attention first but as I look back you are right. BB’s comments are out of line as well. We all need to take a breath and try and debate without insults. Back to the point of this discussion: Why can’t people voice there opinions / beliefs without being fired, vilified, insulted etc etc?

          • Doug Daumueller

            Because those opinions are not shared by his employer. His opinions reflects on the company he works for. Why is that so hard to understand?

          • tionico

            Calling wingnuts stupid isn’t an insult, it’s just a fact. and calling homosexuals “sinful” and homosexual acts “sin” is not judgement, its FACT by way of agreeing with our Creator. Deal.

          • JoeSixpaq

            There’s nothing factual about your mythology, no matter how much you disagree.

          • ellowe13

            Umm…I counted the negative comments coming from the “pro-gay” and compared to the supposed christians…the christians won hands down…just sayin’.

            And FYI…there are LOTS of gays that are also christian…you might want to rethink your hatred.

          • Wraith Against RichOligarchy

            Gayism & the Judio/Christian faith are not compatible. Those that are gay &
            profess to be of the Judeo/Christian faith are considered anathema & apostates
            by the authority of the Book. You should know your facts before you state such
            things. Muslims are even worse, the Quran states to kill all homosexuals in various
            texts. In reality no one accepts what they perceive to be something unnatural.

          • governmentslave

            Sorry but you’re using the wrong your.

          • JoeSixpaq

            Well golly gee, no kidding! You’re a smart one. Take a look at the post to which I was replying, and maybe you’ll be able to figure out why I deliberately misspelled it AND put it in quotes. Did you call out BAD BOB too?

          • Jabsdna

            I do hope you mean “You’re illirterate…not Your”

          • Constance OConnor

            It is you’re or you are

          • Softballumpire

            If he or she is gay what the problem?

          • Jabsdna

            The problem is ” WE ARE SICK AND TIRED OF HAVING IT SHOVED IN OUR FACE EVERYWHERE WE TURN”

            You want to be an IDIOT ok, but I don’t want to hear about it…is that clear enough????

          • Constance OConnor

            And you, homophobic.

          • Karlly

            Jesus didn’t have to say anything about it because God had already said in the Old Testament that is was an “abomination in His sight.”

          • Brennan Onesimus Williams

            Joh 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

          • Emslykarl

            If our standard of moral conduct is to be based on the assumption that anything Jesus did not speak about is fair game , we are in a whole heap of trouble as a society ! The question is not only is it ok ; the question ought to be is it holy ? Whole and holy mean the same thing !

          • Jason Buckwheat

            IT WAS WELL STATED IN THE OLD TESTAMENT, HE DID HAVE TO REPEAT IT.

          • sleeper48

            Romans is in the New Testament.

          • JoeSixpaq

            The same Romans in which God turned peopel gay for not worshipping him? That Romans? Not the words of Jesus, my friend.

          • sleeper48

            Romans 1 18:28.

          • brian

            Joe’s problem is he “used” to be a bible thumper, then he “discovered” he liked to stick his penis in another man’s ass and realized he was going to be condemned to hell, now he is just an angry Liberal…. seems like a natural Liberal progression.

          • JoeSixpaq

            Ha ha ha! Bless your heart, you’re hilarious when you argue with crap that you made up in your own head.

          • Steve Z

            Gee Brian, we can all see what you’ve been thinking about!

          • reinhold

            Sodomy has its own reward. There are consequences.

            Yehshua,The Christ (Jesus) does not condemn sinners but warns all sinners about the consequences any defiance of our Father’s Law.

            Like all individuals that defy the Law, the homosexual says, “The Law is Wrong.” The defiant ones think they know better how to succeed and demand that everyone accept and endorse their perverse and bizarre behavior. Here, Phil Robertson declared his own confession and repentance. You reject this ! Failing all humility, you make others wrong so that you can appear to be right. This is the central characteristic of the Suppressive Personality. This conduct is supreme folly. For by doing so you fail and you drag others down with you!

            You fail to understand that those who oppose your folly are your bets friends.

            Americans cannot repent because Americans will not confess.

            The homosexual is a tormented being. He hates himself s much that he tries to become another by deception. Ugly stuff!

            Homosexuality: Nothing gay about it.”

            Condemnation of this perversion does not preclude the condemnation of other perversions. The Homosexual must defend all perversions in order to attempt to appear “normal” or “natural.” One might argue that cliff-jumping is perfectly natural for the desperate.

          • tionico

            You obviously have NOT raed the New tEstament either. Until you do, don’t put your foot in your mouth by saying it is mute on the matter. It clearly says homosexual conduct is not acceptible… in the same breath it condemns things like fornication, adultery, murder, theft, larceny, false testimony.. it says NONE who do these things will enter thekingdom of heaven. Your problem, not mine.

          • otaycec

            Then try the New Testament: Romans 1:26-32; 1 Corinthians 6:9.

          • bamared2222

            There were a lot of issues addressed by Jesus that aren’t recorded, but that doesnt mean he didnt speak of it. Secondly, read Romans 1: verse 23 and following. Plus Paul speaks about numerous sins of people who continue in them, will not inherit the kingdom and homosexuality is among them. By the way, use common sense. Men with men and women with women. Men and women were made for each other, their bodies complimenting one another. How do two women have sex without some device? And men, copulating in a very degrading manner. Plus, neither can produce children. I am like Robertson, a woman’s vagina is what I desire, not a man’s anus. How insane. Wise up!

          • GlennBillings

            Jesus was the Son of God but he was not the only one in the NT do declare what was sin. Jesus’ mission was not to come to earth to declare what were all the specific sins of the world. He came to show what it was like for us to have a direct relationship with the Father by showing His direct relationship. Paul was given his orders directly from God. Paul says that God says homosexuality is a sin. Go read the beginning of Romans.

          • ort

            Jesus/God reiterated the Old Testament when He quoted scripture and said “for this reason a man will leave his father and mother and cleave to his WIFE (woman) and they will become one flesh.”

            You need to actually read the Bible, not just cherry pick.

          • Janet Bosley

            I gave NEW TESTAMENT SCRIPTURE LOOK THEM UP .

          • Jerry

            And make us pay for the gay bowl diseases they get. That’s why they want yoBama care.

          • reinhold

            Absurd notion. We have One Teacher, the Christ. He teaches, “Search the Scriptures for therein will you find eternal life.” Our Savior King Yeshua referred to what you call “The Old Testament.”-” Not one jot or tittle will be done away with.” The Gospels (so-called”New Testament”) describe the fulfillment of the Scriptures not the dispensation of the Word!

            We judge not the sinner but his conduct. Condemnation of another would be condemnation of ourselves. It is our Father that will judge the individual. Our Advocate is our Father’s only Son,our Savior king Yeshua. “We are save by grace, not be works, lest any man should boast.”

          • xoxozo

            1 Corinthians 6:9&10 …..almost word for word. It IS IN THE BIBLE!!!

          • bpgagirl22VAnow

            THANK YOU! It gripes my ass when HYPOCRITES state one thing from the Bible but then turn around and slap themselves in the face by eating this or that or professing this or that other thing!

          • JoeSixpaq

            Most of these idiots are what I call “a la carte Christians.” They focus on the parts of the Bible that reinforce their prejudices and ignore the rest.

          • HonestToAtee

            Do all of you Progressive Atheists use the same talking points because I saw EliseR give that same answer to someone yesterday? PARROT

          • ort

            Jewish ceremonial laws have ZERO to do with God’s moral law. You provide me one single verse that proves God’s moral law no longer exists, and I’ll concede the argument.

          • Chris Bowen

            Depends on which version you mean.. The king James that does not support your argument, or the new international version that does.

          • Karlly

            The gist of the Bible is the same no matter what version you use. Quit splitting hairs here.

          • Chris Bowen

            No it is not.. Depending on which version you use can have vast differences

          • Katherine McChesney

            That’s the only truthful statement you’ve made.

          • BAD BOB

            Which version do you use Chris the KORAN?

          • Chris Bowen

            Ahh another person who wants to attack with fallacies instead of logic…

          • De oppresso liber

            So if I rewrite and translate any text and change it a little, and 500 other people do it the original text is no longer valid? Your dumb as a rock.

          • lather

            LOL.. Word of “God” but it has versions.. Awesome foolishness.

          • Katherine McChesney

            The KJV DOES support that argument. The NIV is a corrupt translation.

          • wingsandreverie

            Spot on!

          • Emslykarl

            Read 1 Corinthans 6:9 -11 , in any translation , and you will find the passage quoted by Robertson ! The passage also mentions thieves and slanderers ; do you have any beef with those ? Or is it only mentioning homosexuality that makes Robertson’s quite hateful ?

          • Chris Bowen

            Nope:

            Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

            Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

            And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

            Besides that talks about people who will go to heaven, not how you treat them on earth.

          • Doug Daumueller

            If God hates gays,why did he create them that way? Please don’t argue that they chose the lifestyle. Who in the hell would want to put up with all of your bullshit. It would so much easier to be heterosexual.

          • Chris Bowen

            You are arguing to the wrong person that.

          • reinhold

            By such illogic you argue that God Created the Homosexual, the Murderer, the Thief, the Liar, even you! This is a common premise for those that seek the Light. Step into the Light!

            “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”
            John 3:16

            Obviously God loves the repentant sinner. Repentant homosexuals included

            Our Savior King Yeshua promises, “You shall know the truth and the truth will make you free.” If you are free then you must already know the truth. If you are not free you must learn the truth.

            You are correct it is far easier to obey the Loving Law of our Creator than to face the consequences of defiance. Cliff jumping has its consequences.

          • Doug Daumueller

            The other examples you use are choices made by those people. So apples to apples please.

          • reinhold

            BY CHOICE NOT BY CHANCE You are correct. You presume the homosexual knows no difference. If that were so why prefer the same gender? The choice would make no difference. Violations such as miscegenation is likewise defiance of the Law. Thous shall not commit adultery. Do not adulterate anything – this includes the sacrament of marriage the honor bound commitment of a man and a woman. The homosexual fears that boundary so defies it. Like cliff jumping – you chose the consequence.

          • Emslykarl

            Huh ?

          • Chris Bowen

            That is 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 in the King James edition.

          • Emslykarl

            I think you just look to argue , and win , so I’m going to grant you that pleasure . Merry Christmas.

          • Chris Bowen

            Happy Holidays.

          • Elizabeth_Hubbard

            I’m sure you don’t eat pork, right?

          • lather

            Odd, I looked on your profile and see that you have friends with lip piercings and Tattoos…

            Hypocrite much?

          • centermass1

            Gotta love Romans 1 18:23. Pretty much sums it up for sodomites.

          • Phillip Woeckener

            You do know that when you tell someone not to judge, that you are doing so yourself, in a hypocritical way. What you failed to read in your prooftext of Robertson’s interview was that he was quoting scripture in his remarks on homosexuality, which God clearly condemns and calls an abomination. The problem in society today is that there are too many people willing to stand behind sin, and not with God. And through your blasphemous comments may God have mercy on your soul.

          • Chris Bowen

            Actually it is not hypocritical, as I am not Christian, so therefore do not believe it is wrong to judge, but find it hypocritical that people who claim to be Christian judge.

            Secondly the problem with society today is that too many people care about something that they cannot prove and probably doesnt exist, and not things of the earthy realm.

          • Karlly

            So let’s see if I’ve got this straight…you’re not a Christian, but you are criticizing Christians. Well, at least they are trying to live for the Lord, and you by your own admission are not. If that is not hypocritical then I don’t know what is!

          • Chris Bowen

            Then you apparently dont know what hypocritical is. I am judging you for violating your own beliefs.. That would only be hypocritical if I held those same beliefs, or specifically if I believed judging was wrong.

          • Tracy Robinson Russell

            But……. You said people should not judge…OH I get it, It’s OK to judge if it goes against what YOU believe, but NOT ok if someone disagrees with you. GOT it!

          • Chris Bowen

            Actually no I didnt, you apparently cannot comprehend what is written, I said Christians are not allowed to judge, not that people in general should not judge.

          • Katherine McChesney

            Now you’re behaving like a coward. The requirements are the same. Christian or not. God judges your behavior and you will be held accountable for every word you speak and for every action you take. You are the biggest hypocrite here.

          • Chris Bowen

            In what way have I behaved like a coward, I came here with my real name and picture.. That is not a coward. And no the requirements are not the same. Your belief does not have the same requirements as Muslims, or as Buddhists, requirements change based on belief.

          • Katherine McChesney

            You judge us by every comment you make. Furthermore, Islam and Buddhism are pagan religions. They do not worship the true God. They are corrupt religions.

          • JoeSixpaq

            Well gee, if you say so, it must be true! seriously who do you think you are to be making that sort of judgment? That is profoundly un-Christian behavior.

          • Chris Bowen

            That is an opinion.. To them yours is a pagan religion.

          • Softballumpire

            Oh so only your belief o religion is not corrupt right? hahah you sound a real winner oh wait.. I am going to say this hunny I am straight and I am guy if I was the last male on earth to help the world come back I wouldn’t do it with you.

          • Doug Daumueller

            Followers of Islam and Buddha say the same thing about Christians. I guess you are right because your imaginary friend is better than theirs.

          • Rabelrouser

            **”Your belief does not have the same requirements as Muslims, or as Buddhists, requirements change based on belief.”
            Quite right Chiris, the difference being that Jesus is alive, and those “religion’s” “gods” are dead and in the ground.

          • Chris Bowen

            Jesus WAS alive, he is not alive currently. Also Muslims believe in the same God, just different interpretation of his words, and if Jesus was God or just a profit, and Buddhists dont believe in a God, generally.

          • Blake

            Muslims? Ha. You don’t want to have this conversation with Muslims.

          • Karlly

            We comprehend just fine, YOU are the one picking apart every word and sentence. Reread what I posted initially about “ye are known by your fruits” until you can get a grasp on what that means exactly. I did not say one word about me judging anybody and that by their own actions people are living their lives for the world to see. THERE is a big difference in saying you are going to hell because you are a homosexual, which I DID NOT say, and what I actually did say. You are the one insinuating or claiming we are saying things we did not say.

          • Karlly

            I actually haven’t violated my own beliefs. YOU said I violated them. I merely stated what the Bible says and pointed out what “ye are known by your fruits” means. You are the one putting words in my mouth, er, posts. You said you were not a Christian, what you didn’t say was that you are an atheist. Lot’s of people aren’t Christians, but they still believe there is a God.

          • Katherine McChesney

            You’re judging us in every comment you make.

          • Karlly

            Oh he believes he has the right to do that because he is not a Christian. Atheist troll would probably describe him better. He’s not winning the arguments here so he resorts to nitpicking apart everything else.

          • Chris Bowen

            Actually not Atheist, but nice try, I dislike them just as much as I dislike Christians like this. Both sides have a ton of hypocrites.

          • Karlly

            No, if you do not believe there is a God then you are an atheist.

          • Jerry

            Yes, he is a technical jerk.

          • allen goldberg

            Only your opinion sir. Nothing more, nothing less.

          • Chris Bowen

            Actually fact based on the definition of the word.

          • Jerry

            Although I did call your comment queer I did not say you were gay. Please be well advised 2 men or 2 women will never be a marriage. Perhaps a condemnation, but never a marriage. It has already been well taught. We have all been warned. There is no judging about it. You should thank Phil for trying to help people.

          • Chris Bowen

            It is already in several states. Religion has been used to violate civil rights in the past and it has been stopped in the past, this will eventually be the same case.

          • Jerry

            You have a terrible disconnect between mans law and Gods law. Those demons have one strong hold on you.

          • Chris Bowen

            Again, I dont believe that something we cannot prove is real should have an impact on what we know is real.. You do, and that is fine, but that is like telling a kid they are not allowed to put their feet off the end of the bed because the monster will get them.

          • Karlly

            You can’t see air, but you know it’s there because you’re not dead. Either you have faith there is a God or you don’t. If I die and find out there is no God, I’ve lost nothing. If you die and find out there IS a God, you’ll be burning for eternity.

          • aubreyfarmer

            Not so. The burning for eternity is a myth started by the Roman Catholic Church to extort money from the ignorant. When someone lost in sin dies their soul is cast into the lake of fire and it is consumed. They no longer exist. The punishment is the eternal seperation from the Creator.

          • Karlly

            The book of Revelation in my Bible states Satan and all his followers will be cast into the Lake of Fire. Nowhere in my Bible does it state they will be consumed and no longer exist. They will burn for all eternity.

          • Jerry

            I see signs of God every day. Some as simple as an expression on some ones face. You don’t see it because you don’t accept it so you have been given over to a depraved mind.

          • Jerry

            Are you attempting to say religion will be erased?

          • Chris Bowen

            Are you trying to ensure there is a logical fallacy in all your posts? Unless all your religion is comprised of is ways to violate others civil rights, no..People need to believe in something after death to maintain their sanity, well most people anyways.

          • Jerry

            Talk about civil rights. What about forcing churches to pay for abortions and birth control when their religious beliefs are being violated? What about forcing Christian people to pay for health care for Fa**ots and their disgusting gay bowl diseases such as amebiases, giardiasis, salmonellosis, hepatitis, std’s, and not to mention herpes, sore throats and aids. Answer those questions technical jerk. And don’t try to tell me that the rate of aids is the same for homosexuals as for others.

          • Chris Bowen

            Citation please? I assume you are mention the ACA which exempts churches from those things….

            As for the rates, dont get into a topic you cannot reasonably debate, as we can then get into obesity and smoking.

          • Jerry

            And we should not be forced to pay for that either. In fact we should not be forced to pay for any ones reckless or deviant behavior.
            In fact the aca is forcing churches and citizens to pay for those things. That may be the demise of your lesbian, pervert, baby killing democratic party who cannot win an election without promoting those demonic issues.

          • Chris Bowen

            Religious exemption for churches :http://www.uhc.com/united_for_reform_resource_center/health_reform_provisions/preventive_services/religious_exemptions_to_contraceptive_coverage.htm

            Churches do not have to pay for those first thing…. I am not a democrat, I am a moderate, who hates extremists on both sides…But I guess when you dont agree with one extreme you have to be part of the other extreme right?

          • Jerry

            Why are there about 75 lawsuits by churches and citizens going on right now to stop it including the baker from Colorado who doesn’t want to make a gay cake and is being threatened with jail.

          • Chris Bowen

            The statement was for Churches, not private citizens…. You will have to give more context on the Churches aspect suing to stop it. As for the baker that had nothing to do with the ACA, but with him violating the states law.

          • Jerry

            You have not fully answered all my previous questions. I won’t bother elaborating any further on yours.

          • Chris Bowen

            And which question did I skip? I seem to have answered them all.

          • Jerry

            You will continue to spin your answers. I won’t bother answering.

          • Chris Bowen

            So it is not that I didnt answer your question, just that I proved your statements wrong and you want a way out..Got ya.

          • Karlly

            How about YOU provide a citation showing the ACA exempts those churches. No, the ACA does not exempt churches from those things. Where have you been? The Catholic church is having a fit over it.

          • Chris Bowen

            umm, I already did, look 2 down from this one.

          • taliesin319

            Chris has an opinion and will gainsay anything anyone says. Agree to disagree which will enable us all to ignore him and put him in the Tabitha, Janet, Hall of Fame.

          • Katherine McChesney

            The Bible tells us to make useful judgements like the one he made about faggots. The judgement we are NOT to make is whether they are going to Heaven.

          • Chris Bowen

            That is a new and interesting spin on it, in any case, this will is not a useful judgement.

          • Katherine McChesney

            This was a proper judgement he made. You are complicit in a filthy lifestyle.

          • Karlly

            That is your opinion.

          • Katherine McChesney

            No, that’s his JUDGEMENT.

          • imbustinloose

            All Chris is a liberal or Marxicrat mole he is here to waste your time. Good try Obama supporter

          • Chris Bowen

            Wrong 3 times, but keep the fallacies coming.

          • imbustinloose

            I doubt it.

          • Chris Bowen

            You can believe all you want to, just because you believe in something does not make it true.

          • Elizabeth_Hubbard

            Using hate speech makes you a bad Christian. Go repent immediately.

          • Renee smart

            In your opinion not mine. He doesn’t have to agree with homosexal life styles. So what. Big deal. Who really cares but him what he thinks. Grow up. Enough is enough. The interviewer ask a question he answered. Who did he hurt?? No one!! What about what Oprah said on her interview?? She said “a whole generation of white people should just die because they were taught is children to hate black people”. She wants our grandparents dead. what about that hate crap. he didn’t say one thing about anyone dying because of who they are. I was taught growing up sticks and stones may break your bones but words will never hurt you.

          • Chris Bowen

            I did not say he had to agree with it, no one is saying he has to be gay..I never said he hurt anyone, but the show has a right to remove him if they want. They are paying him to be on there. So maybe most of the people attacking the show should grow up.

            As for Oprah, citation please.. Did your grandparents teach you to hate?

          • Karlly

            Nobody in my family taught me to hate any other people. My grandparents were friends with most of the blacks in their small town and when my grandfather passed away, the black folks were just some of the ones who brought food to the house. Oprah may be filthy rich, but apparently she still has the black mentality, and you would think she, of all people, would realize whites are who made her rich by watching her shows.

          • Chris Bowen

            Then, if the quote was correct, she was not talking about your parents.. I would have a problem with it though, if someone would provide a citation..

            That being said your grand parents may not have taught you to hate, but you did have a racist statement in there, and one you cannot really prove.

          • Emslykarl

            He most certainly did quote the bible ; you need to read it before making such an assertion !

          • Chris Bowen

            So the following lines are in the bible?

            “It seems like, to me, a vagina—as a man—would be more desirable than a man’s anus. That’s just me. I’m just thinking: There’s more there! She’s got more to offer. I mean, come on, dudes! You know what I’m saying? But hey, sin: It’s not logical, my man. It’s just not logical.”

            Last I read the bible, back when I was a Christian, I never said that in any of the books

          • Emslykarl

            No ! That’s NOT in the bible ; that was his personal opinion ! My sense is that you have only a cursory knowledge of scripture . True ? It probably has a lot to do with the fact you are no longer a Christian . My guess is that you’ve never read the Constitution either ; especially the first Amendment .

          • Chris Bowen

            Actually I have read both, and unlike you I understand the constitution, otherwise you would know that this is not a constitutional matter, as the constitution only restricts the government, not private people or entities. A&E are well within their rights to fire someone who says something they dont agree with.

          • xoxozo

            ALONG WITH LEVITICUS & ROMANS from Terra… Read 1Corintians 6: 9&10..
            word for word!!!

          • Chris Bowen

            I have, multiple times, it does not say what you claim, atleast not in the KJ edition

          • xoxozo

            The KJV uses the word effeminate… different time period language

          • Chris Bowen

            But that word does not mean being gay, or even laying with a member of the same sex. It means of being like a woman. And while some gay people are, not all are.

          • xoxozo

            The KJV is worded differently than some. My other Bibles say homosexuality. We are NEVER going to agree so bye!!!!
            But being like a woman would probably mean sexually too.
            Read some others or look them up on the net 1Corinthians chap 6 verses 9-10
            It good to read others and see what they say.

          • zxm

            Specifically, what logical fallacy are you referring to?

          • Chris Bowen

            You mean the personal attack that he claimed was not a personal attack, but makes no sense in the other context for speech? A typical queer comment as relating directly to the comment would mean a typical untypical comment.

          • Angelina Sclone

            So only Atheist’s and Homosexual’s can speak their mind and the media an you Chris will lovingly embrace it. Christians, not so much.. grow up! You act a fool.Seems you embrace the Radical Terrorist’s after Chrisitans??UMMMM?You’re in the wrong country.

          • Chris Bowen

            Telling me to grow up while you are characterizing my statements is pretty hypocritical. firstly you can say what you want, but that does not make it right, nor does it mean the tv station has to keep you on air. Second the only terrorists is the far right, as you seem be the group wanting to prevent others from exercising their rights.. Lastly I am from a secular country, that explicitly requires neutrality in religion, the US, from a founding colony that was founded as secular in its charter, North Carolina,, so I am in the right place.. You and your beliefs on the other hand seem to go hand in hand with the Taliban. Not to mention your persecution complex.

          • Jabsdna

            Evidently you did not read what he said, he DID NOT say he was judging ! It doesn’t matter he, like the rest of us have a RIGHT to speak our minds. the only people that are allowed to say anything at all are the so called Gays,Blacks,Illegal aliens,atheist, Muslims and any other filthy mouthed creeps slithering out from under their rocks in the world. All of you need to “SHUT UP NOW” it’s out turn to speak out about the REAL God if we like.!
            Now go ahead and bash me, knock yourself out !
            WE ARE JUST FED UP !!!!!!!
            OVOMIT will continue to try and wipe us out along with the low life media, that’s ok we’re ready to fight now !! I don’t care what you IDIOTS say enough is enough !!

          • HonestToAtee

            A bit defensive? You sound homophobic!

          • Chris Bowen

            Just because I clarify to someone calling me queer that I am not gay makes me homophobic?

          • HonestToAtee

            Good luck trying to prove a negative, you see where Phil is coming from now?
            They call him a hater and worse and never said anything that would indicate hatred!

          • Chris Bowen

            They called him a hater because direction because of his comments, that shows that he is a hater, not by implying things he did not say. Same thing with his blacks were happy while being slaves statement.

          • HonestToAtee

            Good luck proving your not gay!

          • Chris Bowen

            uh huh, I dont care if you think I am gay or not. Unlike him I never made a statement to that effect, so your ignorance just makes me giggle.

          • HonestToAtee

            Giggling is a clue too!!!

          • bamared2222

            The article says that he paraphrased the scripture, but what he said was ACCURATE from the Bible. By the way, how do you think people become aware of wrong doing when they dont know the starndard of right and wrong? All of this philosophy has arisen from our schools promoting an AMORAL society, beginning with small children.

          • ort

            Nor have you read Jude 1:7

        • Softballumpire

          Really jerry so accodring to the bible its ok for women to be raped women shouldn’t work men shoudn’t be working on sunday. So tell me do you follow the bible yet that what i thoguht.

          • Jerry

            Some sins are far worse than others. Rapist should be executed according to the bible. Please stop trying to distort.

          • Karlly

            There were instructions for the Jews back in the Old Testament because God was trying to teach them to be obedient. Even today, everyone knows children do better in a structured environment so they know their boundaries. Same thing back in the Old Testament. Jews still follows those rules God set out for them today. Gentiles were not given the same rules and although some things in the Bible apply to all people, there are specify things the Jews were to follow.

        • lather

          Can you show me where Jesus said Gays were bad? NOT old testament crap.. all that was over with the new guy.. right?

          • Karlly

            Wrong! Just because Jesus came along and died for our sins does not mean the Old Testament is not relevant. God called man sleeping with man an abomination in His sight. Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed because there was so much sin in those towns. Men came to the door of Lot’s house and demanded the angels come out so they could have sex with them! The Ten Commandments is in the Old Testament so do you think they are no longer relevant?

          • lather

            I never thought they were relevant to start with. Sin is sin in your book.. so.. do you wear leather? Do you treat people with tattoo’s as sinners too?

            It is called hypocrisy.

          • Karlly

            They are relevant, so that’s your first mistake. What has wearing leather and tattoos have to do with anything? You apparently have no clue what the Bible says about any of it.

          • lather

            Leviticus 19:28 – Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I [am] the LORD.

            Oh, did you ever forget to comb your hair?
            “Letting your hair become unkempt(10:6)”

            How about Football you dumbass?
            Football. At least, the pure version of
            football, where you play with a pigskin. The modern synthetic footballs
            are ugly and slippery anyways. Leviticus 11:8, which is discussing
            pigs, reads “You shall not eat of their flesh nor touch their carcasses; they are unclean to you.”

            How about this?
            Polyester, or any other fabric blends. The Bible doesn’t want you to wear polyester. Not just because it looks cheap. It’s sinfully unnatural.

            Leviticus 19:19 reads, “You are to keep My statutes. You shall not breed
            together two kinds of your cattle; you shall not sow your field with
            two kinds of seed, nor wear a garment upon you of two kinds of material mixed together.”

            You clearly pick and choose your sins.
            HYPOCRITE.

          • Jerry

            I can but it won’t do any good because you will invent an excuse not to believe it. In Romans Chapter 1. Although the words did not come directly from Jesus they were spoken to the apostles by him.

      • Karlly

        “Ye are known by your fruits.” No pun intended here and for those who do not know what that means, it’s a scripture in the Bible. If a man robs a bank, he’s called a bank robber, if a man rapes a woman, he’s called a rapist, if a man burglarizes a house, he’s called a burglar, if a man goes to a bar and is getting drunk every night, he’s known as an alcoholic or a drunkard, if a man has sex with another man, he’s known as a homosexual. God said in the Bible that “man laying with man is an abomination in His sight.” If you are putting yourself out there doing all of these things for the world to see, the world doesn’t even have to judge you, you are actually telling them yourself. If you don’t know your Bible, please don’t try to say what God and Jesus do and do not allow.

        • Chris Bowen

          You are skipping a step, you can call him homosexual but you cannot judge him past that, because doing so would be going past the “ye are known by your fruits” part.

          • Karlly

            No, I didn’t skip a part…did I say anything past that? I know what the Bible says about homosexuality and that it’s a sin and I know what the Bible says about sinners and since you professed you are not a Christian in another post, that would also apply to you. Sin is sin and no sin is worse in the eyes of God than any other sin. There is only one unpardonable sin and homosexuality is not it, so a homosexual can be a Christian if s/he asks God for forgiveness and does not keep living that lifestyle. But then again, people who aren’t married and are sleeping together are sinners as well, so the gay community has a lot of company in the sin dept.

          • Chris Bowen

            If there is an unpardonable sin then there is a sin that is worse in the eyes of God…Really, gotta lean some logic. Also I would be willing to bet no one, including Mr Robinson himself, would be free of sin according to the bible, ever.

          • Karlly

            Maybe your reading comprehension skills need some work. What I said made perfect sense. You are just picking and choosing now. Since you seemed to have missed the point the first time around, I’ll repeat it again, sin is sin is the eyes of God and there is only ONE unpardonable sin. THAT right there put the unpardonable sin as an exclusion. Now stop trying to act like you are more intelligent than the rest of us and play nice.

          • Chris Bowen

            You seem to fail at logic.. the opposite of none is not all, it is some.. IF you say that there is no unforgivable sin all you have to to prove that false is prove that a single or more sins are unforgivable. Since unpardonable is a synonym for unforgivable, if a sin is unpardonable then it is unforgivable and you have proved your statement false.

          • Karlly

            Again, your opinion. I didn’t say there is no unforgivable sin. I said there is one unforgivable sin and that is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. All other sins can be forgiven if people sincerely repent and try their best not to repeat it. I don’t believe you can deliberately sin, ask for forgiveness, sin the same thing again, ask for forgiveness, etc. This is where knowing God comes in. People who truly know God do not want to sin.

          • Chris Bowen

            That is not opinion it is fact. It is demonstrable, and based on the actual meanings of the word. It is only an opinion if you believe you are able to change the meanings of the word at will.

            As for your second half you may be better than the vast majority of the Christians I know if that part of logic then.

          • Karlly

            What part of the word “unpardonable” don’t you understand??? As for my second half, I love the Lord and try to live it daily. I don’t know about the Christians you know, but nobody is perfect. Maybe you’d do well to keep your own house as clean as you can before you start trying to clean someone else’s house.

          • Chris Bowen

            I understand it perfectly well. If you have an unpardonable sin, you cannot have all sins capable of being unforgivable. Those 2 words are SYNONYMS..

            My house is clean enough for me.

          • Karlly

            By the way, no one ever said we Christians are free of sin because we aren’t. Jesus is and always has been the only perfect man to ever walk on this planet.

          • Chris Bowen

            That is the problem, you will by your own admission never get into heaven if it does exist… You will always be sinners, nothing you will do will change it. You can repent but you will not mean it. So instead of worrying about something that may or not be real be good to all of your fellow humans.

          • Karlly

            That is where you are wrong. God knows my heart and God knows I try my best every day to live for Him. What makes you think I’ll repent but will not mean it? I repent all the time and try not to make the same mistakes again. At least I try and God knows I try and that is the difference between you and me.

          • Katherine McChesney

            The Unpardonable sin is blasphemy of God’s name. You blaspheme His name every time you deny Him. You are a sinner, in need of Jesus Christ. You should ask for His mercy by admitting your need for Him in your life.

      • Nana

        And are YOU judging him?

        • Chris Bowen

          Did you miss the part where I am not Christian so therefore am not forbidden from judging people?

          • Karlly

            Hahahaha! Just because you are not a Christian does not give you the right to judge anybody even though you apparently think it does.

          • Chris Bowen

            So it does not matter that you sin, as long as you “try” not to now.. How far the interpretations have fallen.

          • Karlly

            Well, between me and you, I don’t know anybody who can manage to never sin, can you? It’s the people who are trying to live for God who will go to Heaven because as I said previously, God knows the hearts of His people and He knows who is paying lip service and who is actually trying to live for Him daily. Your interpretations seem to be the problem here.

          • Chris Bowen

            Except that is not what the bible says, you must repent and mean it, not just say words.

          • Karlly

            How do you know people who repent don’t actually mean it? Can you read minds now?

          • Chris Bowen

            because they continue to do it….. If you really mean you dont want to sin, then you wont sin.

          • Karlly

            Because we are all human. At least we try, and that’s more than I can say for you. I actually know of a lot of times that I don’t think I’ve sinned, but I still ask God to forgive me in case I did without realizing it…I wonder if arguing with a fool like you is considered a sin? The Bible says, and I’m paraphrasing here, that a man who claims there is no God is a fool. So I guess by your own admission that makes you a fool and no, I’m not judging…

          • Katherine McChesney

            You are the worst of the worst. You deny God yet you require others to be perfect. You are the most pathetic person on this thread. You are hypocritical. And you are subject to the same laws that Christians are. You’re just too ignorant and reprobate to understand that.

          • Chris Bowen

            Actually I am a very principled person.. I am not required to do anything other than be who I am and follow the laws of what I know I am bound by, since I dont know that your God exists, I am not bound by those rules. I follow a philosophy that was probably was what Christianity was based on though, something you people forgot long ago. Be good to those around you.

          • Katherine McChesney

            Sounds like you’re so-called principles are founded on your arrogance and self-righteousness. You claim to be so righteous yet you deny the God who has bestowed many blessings on your throughout your pathetic God-less life. You are inappreciative of what He has done for you yet you call yourself ‘principled’. You, sir are the worst of the worst kind of sinner. You worship yourself.

          • Karlly

            Well said!

      • bowie1

        Ah…but now YOU are judging, if I should go by your definition of what the Bible means.

        • Chris Bowen

          You mean the definition of the phrase “thou shall not judge” Even still keep up, do jump to conclusions, read the entire conversation.

          • Tracy Robinson Russell

            The Bible actually says. Judge not or you will be judged by the same standard.

          • Chris Bowen

            that is some creative adding. It actually said judge not, lest ye be judged, there is no “by the same standard” added onto it.

          • Karlly

            Uhh, dude, exactly what do you think that means then?

          • Chris Bowen

            It means you are not to judge, and if you do, others will then judge you.

          • Karlly

            No, it actually means if you judge somebody harshly, God will judge you using the same exact measurement. “Judge not least ye be judged.” Since God is the ultimate judge, He will be the one who judges us on Judgment Day. And YOU will meet God face-to-face on Judgment Day and of that I have no doubt.

          • Chris Bowen

            That, is, opinion, because it is interpretation of something that can be read many different ways, however the first part of it is still dont judge. It is telling you not to do something, and then giving you a consequence for doing it.

          • Karlly

            I just said that. Stop repeating yourself and me.

          • bowie1

            I looked at some of your other comments and you seem to have a double standard when it comes to judging since you say you are not a Christian and therefore it is okay for you to judge. But why? Either judging is right or it is wrong. Which is it?

          • Chris Bowen

            I dont personally care if you judge, I care that you are a hypocrit for professing to follow a religion that tells you not to judge, and then you judge.

          • bowie1

            I don’t judge, I only share. Sometimes that sharing of the Truth may appear to be judging the other person but it is more likely that person’s conscience that is convicting them of wrongdoing.

          • Chris Bowen

            It is all in how you say things. If you were to say, specifically, “god says x is a sin” then you are not judging, you are letting the person judge for themselves.. If you say, “doing x is a sin, and you are a sinner for it” then you are judging the person. The first I have no issue with, the second I have major issue with.

          • Karlly

            Which was exactly what I said in my first post. I said what the Bible and God says about it and gave examples, yet you had a big problem with it. Not very consistent are you??

          • Chris Bowen

            According to my mail log that is not what you said. Your first comment was the “Ye are known by your fruits” so you will have to further specify so I can check.

          • bowie1

            Yes, I can agree with that.

      • TaterSalad

        …..and Phil & family have the right to say what they want. If you don’t like it put some fingers in your ears!

        • Karlly

          You mean along with the feet in his mouth? LOL He obviously picks and chooses which parts of the Bible he thinks Christians should adhere to while he adheres to none since he admits to not being a Christian. He’s an atheist troll.

      • D-man

        Actually Chris, since Glaad claims to be Christians , if you know the Bible as you purport to , we as Christians and the body of Christ are told to judge each other , and publicly condemn before the body of Christ those who sin in order to bring them back to the body, and if they chose to continue in that sin, then we are to turn them out .And should you start with pseudo intellect ,” which version ” screed, this is from my friend who has studied Hebrew , and Aramaic for over thirty five years, he reads both fluently and has helped me in my studies as the King James and other english translations lose the power of the true meaning.

      • imbustinloose

        Strange I wonder what you said when the mentally ill Homosexual Perez Hilton lashed out at the Miss America contestant for stating her views on marriage.

        • wingsandreverie

          Well said!!!

        • Chris Bowen

          And what does that have to do with the price of tea in China, is he a Christian?

          • Karlly

            Kind of like what all this you’re bringing up has to do with anything. One guy who has a hit TV series viewed his personal beliefs and because he is a Christian, you are now railing against all Christians claiming we are judging. There is also a huge difference between knowing what is right and wrong and judging. IF I were to say you are going straight to hell because you are an atheist, THAT is judging. If I say, God’s Word tells me He does exist and you are wrong, that is not judging. If you are going to try to argue with a bunch of Christians, then try to get your arguments right because you are making a lot of accusations, to me particularly, that I did not deserve. I never judged anybody, only pointed out what the Bible says about such behavior.

          • Chris Bowen

            First there is a difference bet weening having a hit tv series and being on a hit tv series, he is the latter, his son the former. Second my statement directly related to the comment, his related in no way, which is why I asked for clarification.

      • jimwilson81

        Phil condemned the sin, not the sinner. St Augustine and St Paul would agree with Phil.

      • Egon

        Well, I reserve the right to judge people. So what ?
        Homosexualism is a freak of nature, some defective gene perhaps, most likely just deviant behavior.

        • Chris Bowen

          A freak of nature that is observed in other animals in nature.. k, that seems like an oxymoron.

          • Karlly

            Actually, it’s called sin and there was no sin until Satan tempted Eve with the forbidden fruit, so God created a perfect man and a perfect woman and gave them free will. Eve used her free will to choose to eat the fruit. Thus sin entered into the world since she had been told by Adam who had been told by God not to eat of it.

      • taliesin319

        The judgement in this matter was made and continues and can be referred to by reciting the Ten Commandments. Jesus did not imply that one should choose a way of life that imperils one’s health. Google Gay Bowel Syndrome and the associated sequellae, and Gonorrhea of the throat just for starters. CDC has statistics which do not paint a pretty picture.

        • Chris Bowen

          So which commandment of the 10 would that be, and why do you still have carved images of Jesus in violation of number 2?

          • Karlly

            Have no other Gods before you. When a person chooses homosexuality over God, that is putting something else before God. Anything that comes between me and God means I am putting something else before God and it doesn’t matter what that something is, it’s still wrong. Back in the Biblical days, it was idols. Carved images of Jesus, really?? Now if it was a carved image of Buddha, it would be different. Catholics believe in images of Jesus on the Cross. Personally, my Jesus is not still on that cross and I don’t know anything like that in my home. This really points out your lack of true understanding of the Bible.

          • Chris Bowen

            No, it is no, no more then you choosing to eat pork is putting another God before him. It does not say dont put something else before him, it says dont but other Gods before him, dont worship other things… Commandment number 2, starts off with “You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. ”

            Jesus surely fits there.

      • gonecrazytoo

        The Bible DOES say that he who is silent or goes along with what he KNOWS is wrong is equally as guilty as the person committing the wrong, and will be judged accordingly by God. Calling out bad behavior does not mean he was judging anyone and he was definitely sticking with God and Jesus on the things he said. There is a difference between pointing out wrong and ‘hate’. We as Christians have plenty of compassion for those who are struggling and living in sin. None of us are perfect, but that doesn’t mean you stop trying to perfect yourself and just simple accept and wallow in sinful behavior.

        • Chris Bowen

          Then you obviously do not know what judging is. Also I would like a citation for the first line please.

      • Angelina Sclone

        Hey Chris Brown.getting your daily attention?You’re a Socialist Liberal Loon! I blocked the stupid uneducated whimpering.

        • Chris Bowen

          I am neither socialist or liberal, nor a loon, I dont speak to people that are not there. but keep up the fallacies there buddy.

      • b_paolucci

        The man wasn’t judging – he was merely relating his beliefs.

      • Candyman101

        The scripture says judge not, lest ye be judged with what wisdom ye judge. You have to make judgements about all kinds of things in life. So, as usual, another stupidly stated liberal opinion.

        • Chris Bowen

          Quote for that phrase please, I cannot find it anywhere.. Also as usual another fallacious statement by a neo conservative, aka, I am not a liberal. just because we differ on opinions does not make me the exact opposite of you.

      • bamared2222

        Sorry, you can’t make a statement from the Bible that you do not understand the meaning of. The kind of judging that is spoken of in the scripture you are referring to is “judging someone’s heart motives,” which is impossible. We can judge an action of another person; for example, if we see a bank robber with a gun leaving a bank with money, then we CAN judge him to be a thief. If we SEE a woman having sex with someone else’s husband other than her own, we CAN say she is an adulterer. Phil was simply stating facts about the act of homosexuality and that he does not agree with it because it is clearly stated as sin in scripture. There is also a remedy for sin if people repent and accept it, but most want to continue doing what THEY want to do, so that is why homosexuals are so incensed!

        • Chris Bowen

          No, he went another step. He can “judge” that they are a homosexual, but it is for God to judge if that person is a sinner for that action, not Phil, or you, or me.. Also dont presume to believe you know what I understand and dont understand. I have read the bible. I WAS a devout Christian until I was tired of being told what to believe, even when contrary to logic.

          • bamared2222

            The whole point is that all are sinners and need redemption, whether homosexual or not. We are to share what God has said about sin, whatever it is. How else could people be redeemed? And yes, I can assume you dont understand scripture because you proved it to me!
            Subject: Re: New comment posted on A& E suspends ‘ Duck Dynasty’ star for ‘ unacceptable’ views on gays; conservatives rally

          • Chris Bowen

            because your interpretation of something vague at best differs from mine does not mean I Do not understand it. And people can be redeemed when they realize their mistakes, because God is supposed to be something individualized.

      • Robert12Disqus

        context is important when studying the bible. you’ll note that God said to judge righteously as well. while seemingly contradictory, the context provides the appropriate rationale that shows both are not contradictory. otherwise why have the legal system in the u.s.? if a gay rapes you but you can’t judge them – so you just ignore it, what sense would that make? i’ll answer… nonsense!

        • Chris Bowen

          Because the US legal system is not based on the bible…

          • Jason Smith

            Actually your wrong about that, the United States was in fact founded and based upon Christian principles and there is plenty of evidence to prove that.

          • Chris Bowen

            No, I am correct. There is a difference between Christian principles and the bible itself. Christian principles could also be Buddhist principles, but the bible is an entirely different monster.

      • ort

        Oy. Ok, the Greek word for “judge” is “krino”, which means “to judge with a RIGHTEOUS judgment”.
        What that means is that God’s Word is the litmus test and anyone that supports that which God has clearly condemned, is to be corrected.
        Got it? Good.

      • Janet Bosley

        There is only one place that says “do not judge lest yea be judged” and it is taken out of context. Let me explain in a simple way I think you might understand.. If someone stole a piece of gum from a bubble gum machine and you later stole the whole machine you could not very well judge them now could you? All the other places in the Bible We (Christians ) are told to judge. Here is just one ” JUDGE A TREE BY ITS FRUIT [talking about a person] A GOOD TREE WILL NOT PRODUCE BAD FRUIT AND A BAD TREE WILL NOT PRODUCE GOOD FRUIT” We are commanded to Judge God does not contradict Him self its just that many are ignorant not understanding . We are to judge rightly . I ask you have you ever judged? . Have you ever said anything about a man that rapes a little girl or molests little boy, How about a someone who murders you just fine with that too? However someone who does not right from wrong or good from bad I agree that person has no business judging because they are brain dead..

    • Softballumpire

      religion is not excuse to show bigot

      • Karlly

        Following God’s Word is not being a bigot, following God’s Word is doing what is right.

    • Frank Atwood

      You are right I do not bend to any man’s will, or to their teachings which are of this world as my Father above teaches those who seek truth beyond the teachings of men that have not overcome this world. We are to overcome it, not be bound by it. Happily married for over 35 years and have had friends of many different religions and sexual orientation and I judge not one of them but only as they judge me, then I need them not nor do I care for them, or need them in my life.

    • toledojim

      You’re right and this time it’s simply about a mans opinion, not the station or the executives, it’s his, so, if you don’t like what he says don’t watch the show, but, it’s his right of free speech, politically correct or not, all these left wing nuts are nothing more than hypocrites and a bunch of cry babies.

    • Brennan Onesimus Williams

      Joh 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
      To practice something out of the boundaries it was designed for then it becomes perverted…THE ”BIBLE” does record history in exactness…therefore we all came from the first man,Adam, and from the first woman , Eve…notice IT DOES NOT SAY STEVE!!!!!???
      Its a preversion and God does speak about these things in the first chapter of Romans(when Paul speaks through his writings it is what God has ordained to be written)..THESE PRACTICING UNRIGHTEOUSNESS IS UNDER THE WRATH OF GOD ALREADY…
      Rom 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hinder the truth in unrighteousness;
      Rom 1:19 because that which is known of God is manifest in them; for God manifested it unto them.
      Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him since the creation of the world are clearly seen, being perceived through the things that are made, even his everlasting power and divinity; that they may be without excuse:
      Rom 1:21 because that, knowing God, they glorified him not as God, neither gave thanks; but became vain in their reasonings, and their senseless heart was darkened.
      Rom 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
      Rom 1:23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God for the likeness of an image of corruptible man, and of birds, and four-footed beasts, and creeping things.
      Rom 1:24 Wherefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts unto uncleanness, that their bodies should be dishonored among themselves:
      Rom 1:25 for that they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshipped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
      Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile passions: for their women changed the natural use into that which is against nature:
      Rom 1:27 and likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another, men with men working unseemliness, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was due.
      Rom 1:28 And even as they refused to have God in their knowledge,((((((((((( God gave them up unto a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not fitting;
      Rom 1:29 being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
      Rom 1:30 backbiters, hateful to God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
      Rom 1:31 without understanding, covenant-breakers, without natural affection, unmerciful:
      Rom 1:32 who, knowing the ordinance of God, that they that practice such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but also consent with them that practice them.)))))))))))

    • dupkaman

      I’m a tea party type guy economically. However, homosexuality is not learned. Research has shown that the homosexual brain is wired differently than the heterosexual brain. Accordingly I do not gay-bash or judge because if God created them in that manner who I am to judge God’s handiwork. I know many homosexuals who are better citizens and people than many heterosexuals I know. Many in fact vote Republican. They prefer to live a quiet, private life and don’t march in gay parades.
      That being said, it is reprehensible that the Duck Dynasty crew has been banned from the air. This is blatant censorship. If you don’t agree with his ideas, don’t watch the show. This persecution of people with politically incorrect ideas must stop. It is similar to book banning in totalitarian countries and a hallmark of the leftist movement in America.

      • slkgej6

        Thank you for a very well reasoned comment. I don’t completely agree with your viewpoint, but I can certainly respect someone who doesn’t agree with me on all points who also considers suppression of differing viewpoints for politically correct expediency reprehensible.

    • Valigator

      You dont need to be one of God’s children, (in the biblical sense) Quoting scripture to the left is like beating a dead horse. What you need to be is AMERICAN and have the right to stand for what you believe without a minority although very (vocal group) cutting you off at the knees for expressing one’s views. The Gay’s are shooting themselves in the foot with this. Even those who have never picked a battle between gay or straight will be pushed to side with heteros on this one. Dont forget the Gay community is still a minority community, they just make MORE NOISE. and have a very specialized united way of “branding” themselves to the point that whatever they demand will be shoved down your throat whether you agree with it or not. Time to shove back on this one.

      • http://kankurosdoll.deviantart.com/ Pookaloo

        Agredd to a point.
        I have seen so many people waver in the last few years (so called Christians) that it does my heart good to see at least ONE man and his family stand up for what he believes in. Especially in Hollywood.
        There is only “tolerance” and whatnot from the Left if you’re a gay-supporting person. But turn it around, and we’ve suddenly broken every rule in the Constitution for them!

  • Lucktoday

    He is only saying what most people are thinking. I’m sure they can jump from A&E to someone else. They don’t need the network, it’s the other way around.

    • Doug

      Exactly. If the others support him they’ll quit and peddle the show to another network.

  • Wraith Against RichOligarchy

    This Big Government obama regime is taking the freedom of speech from all Americans. It is wrong!!!

    • Chris Bowen

      This has nothing to do about Obama.. To be honest the conservatives a the ones who attack freedom of speech over the airways in ways much larger. This is about a networks decision.

      • DoraG38

        Oh, now! I knew this would get around to blaming Conservatives! Ha ! I could see this one coming. First religion and now Conservatives. Shame on you !

        • Katherine McChesney

          Next he’ll blame it on George Bush. Or White people. Liberals expose their mental illness with every comment they make. They are the most intolerant people of all.

      • Wraith Against RichOligarchy

        It does have to do with Mr. obama, he is still in power, he endorses it, & agrees with it, & thus, the media does promoted as well. Let me remind you the vast majority of the media is liberal. Since Mr. obama has risen to power, & since his second term election, defending gay people, & punishing those that vocalize it to be wrong has propagated. There is a Natural Order of Biology. Gayism is unnatural because it does promote human population control. I have the right to state that it is wrong, & it is unnatural based on scientific background, even based on Natural Selection. So I am going to be punished as well for stating that? Think about it. I am not using religion, I am using science to state that it is a behavior, & it is unnatural.

        • Chris Bowen

          First, that is not the definition of unnatural. Unatural means “contrary to the ordinary course of nature” and there are animals that regularly show gay behavior.

          Second the media has been endorsing this for longer then Obama..

          You have a right to say anything you want as long as it does not directly lead to someones harm, but that does not make your statement true, or even logical.

          • Wraith Against RichOligarchy

            Sorry, but it is true, I am giving you scientific facts, not religion. An all queer species will go into extinction. I challenge you to state otherwise or refute it. Those animals that show gay behavior are the weakest link according to the laws of natural selection, & thus they will go into extinction. I challenge to refute this statement with science & biology. Sorry, but it is what it is. Your statement is erroneous. As for the
            media…yes…the media has been endorsing this way before obama, but under the obama regime it has proliferated because he does endorse it. You cannot deny that either. You are not
            logical, nor telling the truth. I am giving you scientific facts; an all queer
            species will go into extinction. State otherwise & you will be branded a liar.
            Homosexuality is unnatural according to the natural selection. It does occur in
            nature, but those two will get nowhere. There is no reproduction…get it??? I
            am not promoting anyone any type of harm, but I don’t have to agree with your
            statements that homosexuality is o.k., nor that it is natural because it isn’t.

          • Chris Bowen

            you state science and then ask me to give you a very unscientific answer. No one ever can prove a negative existential, it is completely impossible. Technically I can say every animal will eventually go extincted, now prove me wrong, and you cant. I am very much more logical then you are, because I have not stated a logical fallacy, which you have, nor have I asked you directly to state a logical fallacy, which you have again. Also according to natural selection just because some of the species chose to do the homosexual ways does not mean the entire species will go extinct. There have been cases of animals evolving ways to change sexes….You dont have to agree with me, but that does not make me wrong, because based on the definition of natural, I am not wrong.

          • Wraith Against RichOligarchy

            You stated some, but still according to natural selection, homosexuals are the weakest link, & you cannot deny that. Sorry, but your answer is not scientifically proven. As for no one can prove a negative existential I strongly disagree with you. In existentialism, the individual’s starting point is characterized by what has been called “the existential attitude” or a sense of disorientation and confusion in the face of an apparently meaningless or absurd world. Many existentialists have also regarded traditional systematic or academic philosophies, in both style and content, as too abstract and remote from concrete human experience. The reality of it is that if a species that turn all homosexual would go into extinction, it is scientifically proven & it is an absolute truth as well, & you cannot deny it. Sorry… Good & evil do exist, I completely disagree with the notion that they are relative because they do exist & we can see the consequences of it. Science cannot explain those concepts, & I have not seen science even try. You state that no one can ever prove a negative existential… so let us go back to existentialism, shall we???

            The first important literary author also important to existentialism was the Russian Fyodor Dostoyevsky. Dostoyevsky’s Notes from Underground portrays a man unable to fit into society and unhappy with the identities he creates for himself. Jean-Paul Sartre, in his book on existentialism Existentialism is a Humanism, quoted Dostoyevsky’s The Brothers Karamazov as an example of existential crisis. Sartre attributes Ivan Karamazov’s claim, “If God did not exist, everything would be permitted” to Dostoyevsky himself. Other Dostoyevsky novels covered issues raised in existentialist philosophy while presenting story lines divergent from secular existentialism: for example, in Crime and Punishment, the protagonist Raskolnikov experiences an existential crisis and then moves toward a Christian Orthodox worldview similar to that advocated by Dostoyevsky himself.

            Many noted existentialist writers consider the theme of authentic existence important. Authentic existence involves the idea that one has to “create oneself” and then live in accordance with this self. What is meant by authenticity is that in acting, one should act as oneself, not as “one” acts or as “one’s genes” or any other essence requires. The authentic act is one that is in accordance with one’s freedom. Of course, as a condition of freedom is facticity, this includes one’s facticity, but not to the degree that this facticity can in any way determine one’s choices (in the sense that one could then blame one’s background for making the choice one made). The role of facticity in relation to authenticity involves letting one’s actual values come into play when one makes a choice (instead of, like Kierkegaard’s Aesthete, “choosing” randomly), so that one also takes responsibility for the act instead of choosing either-or without allowing the options to have different values. In contrast to this, the inauthentic is the denial to live in accordance with one’s freedom. This can take many forms, from pretending choices are meaningless or random, through convincing oneself that some form of determinism is true, to a sort of “mimicry” where one acts as “one should.” How “one” should act is often determined by an image one has of how one such as oneself (say, a bank manager, lion tamer, prostitute, etc.) acts. This image usually corresponds to some sort of social norm, but this does not mean that all acting in accordance with social norms is inauthentic: The main point is the attitude one takes to one’s own freedom and responsibility, and the extent to which one acts in accordance with this freedom.

            Men can be evil, it is historically proven, so I agree with your state that there is no such thing as negative existential. Good & evil do exist, they are real, they cannot be explained by science, but all action has a reaction & all cause does have an effect. You cannot deny this; it is also part of what human beings are.

            As for the other…yes, indeed, technically you can say that every animal will eventually go extinct, that is true. But, still, an absolute true & scientifically proven is, if a species turn all homosexual, with great certainty, it will go into extinction. Prove me wrong, I insist. It is scientifically proven, & thus it is unnatural behavior because in order to preserve a species, you need that species to mate. There is no other way. Now, we know that a species will never turn all gay…because nature itself does not allow it. Nature dictates the survival of the species through natural selection, & through the natural order of biology. See what I mean? No, you are not more logical than I am, I will defend my posture, & I want you to refute me. An all gay species will for sure go to extinction, & this is an absolute truth, scientifically proven, nothing to do with religion. Your statement that animals will eventually go extinct, yeah, some of them do, others do adopt, that is also true, but an all gay species with great certainty will go into extinction. Logic, & science. Refute it. This is not logical fallacy, prove it. I am not intimidated by the looks of you. You are the liar because you cannot accept that it is unnatural. Yes, some creature will have homosexual behavior, & those that do will go to extinction, & Darwin does acknowledge that they are the weakest link. I challenge you to refute it. That is the reason why natural selection does exist, those specimens that are the strongest will perpetuate the species, I want you to refute this statement if you can. Yes, evolving animals do change sexes, but, still, an all homosexual species will simply disappear. Nature is wise, men arrogant. Sorry…homosexuals are unnatural. Indeed, they don’t harm anyone, but themselves. They go against the Natural Order of biology, they will never conceive. I want you to refute this. Man +Man or Woman+ Woman cannot have kids. Is this not an absolute truth, scientifically proven? Yes you are wrong…don’t come to me stating that everything is relative, or that there is no negative existentialist because all action has a reaction & all cause has an effect, & individuals do alter the reality that surrounds them for good or for bad, & sometimes even for evil. Just ask those that launch a nuke on the cities of Hiroshima & Nagasaki if that was not an evil act. The same rule does apply in nature, an all queer species will certainty go into extinction. It is what it is & nature is not kind, nature is cruel. Out there it is survival. Nature is wise, men is arrogant. It is a fact.

    • JoeSixpaq

      Cripes, is there anything you won/t blame on Obama? You. Are. Deranged.

      • Softballumpire

        Joe they blame obama for no rain, no sun, to hot, to warm etc…

        • Karlly

          No, I blame the idiots who elected Obama to begin with. He had no experience running a company, a town, a state, nothing…oh wait, he was a community organizer and I heard his wife helped him get that job. Both of them have lost their law licenses. It’s a proven FACT Obama used up to 16 social security numbers. Then there is his incompetence in running this country. He has so many czars, who usually have no qualifications for THEIR jobs, because he doesn’t know how to run anything. You people who STILL defend Obama are pathetic. I don’t like Hillary either, but at least she wouldn’t have been working at turning this country socialist like he’s doing. It’s evident he was not raised in America and has no American principles and sure doesn’t have our best interest at heart.

          • Wraith Against RichOligarchy

            Well said! ;D

        • Wraith Against RichOligarchy

          What is the state
          of this country right now? Not to mention that he lied to people about
          obamacare & you can keep your doctor & your insurance if you want to.
          He was branded the 2013 Pinocchio, or the Pinocchio of the year. He is not
          doing his job, period.

      • Wraith Against RichOligarchy

        obama is part of the problem, yes he is…he is too liberal, & not, it is not a free for all. All action has a reaction, all cause has a consequence. Good & bad decisions do have their consequence; it does apply in the real world. But I also acknowledge that if Mr. obama got elected is because people elected him. So yes, you are right, people do deserve the type of government they have. But half of the nation did vote against him. Maybe because we don’t share the same values as he promotes. I don’t agree with homosexuality based on scientific background, not religious explanation. For me, homosexuality does not follow the Natural Order of Biology applied to human beings. Based on that, I cannot support it, it is unnatural. Whatever they do with their lives is their own, but don’t come forcing me & try to force me to acknowledge that it is natural because it is not. Under an obama regime, any type of government in any level will keep harassing those that don’t agree with this sort of thought or philosophy. Even the media is punishing people that disagree, infringing their right to free speech. It is wrong & it is unconstitutional.

      • Wraith Against RichOligarchy

        LoL!!! xD No, I am not deranged, but obama is just too liberal. We still have high unemployment, we have a large external debt. All the ridicule & mockery because of his amateur decision taking on foreign policy, such as Benghazi. Shaking hands
        with Raul Castro, from a communist country. Flirting with the prime minister of Denmark. All the NSA wire tapping. All the moral twisted values he promotes. I can go on, & on, & on. All I am stating is that he is not part of the solution, he is part of the problem, & I will go as far as to state that he is one of the biggest mistakes this country has ever produce as president. Am I telling you lies? Its all in here, in the media. You should check it out.

  • Frank Atwood

    The Bible states many will be condemned by a word, and what is good will be bad and what is bad will be good, is also in the Bible. These are descriptions of the last days, within all empires who laws of men catch up with them as money controls societies based on written laws of men and not of God who’s laws are written within ones heart and mind. Mankind has a way of destroying themselves through their own laws as they strive for wealth, status and power amongst their own kind. The worldly kind. Yet, God’s true people are at war with no one, no matter what the race, sex, or beliefs.

    • Phillip Woeckener

      Isaiah 5:20 (NASB)
      20 Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness; Who substitute bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!

  • Frank Atwood

    The Bible also states, that those who judge are not of God, so who ever said, silence is golden, had more truth than today’s society could ever grasp. God bless any who read this and are not offended.

    • EdWatts

      The Bible doesn’t say that. In Luke 7:1-2 we are told that we will be held to the same standards we use when judging others, but that’s about as close as it gets.

      • Frank Atwood

        You are correct, so what you’ve quoted from Luke, if we don’t judge others, then we shall not be judged by God when we face him alone, without any advocate beside us. Our own words will either condemn us or not. Think about it.

    • Phillip Woeckener

      What verse in scripture are you referring to, an what translation are you deriving that bit of falsehood from?

    • Katherine McChesney

      It doesn’t say that at all. You have now shown your ignorance by lying. The Bible also speaks about telling falsehoods.

      • Frank Atwood

        The world’s interpretation of scripture is tied to this world, not to my Father’s world. This world is full of hypocrisy where wars simmer and fester within, for their is not true freedom except in freedom of mind, where many wish to even control all minds who do not conform to this world. My interpretation of scripture frees me up from this world, while yours along with millions are bound to this world we are supposed to overcome. You can’t think outside the box, yet all things of this world is not of the Father, thus the Father is not in you or any who cling to this world and all it’s judgmental hypocrisies.

  • Daniel Brannon

    This is blatent disregard of FREEDOM OF SPEECH!!! Thats the bottom line!! That man has EVERY right to state his opinion on ANYTHING that he wants, as do any and evey one of us!! Oh yea wait a min, i forgot we are living in the “change we can believe in” era!! We no longer have such freedoms and civil liberties like being able to state our OPINION on anything we feel like!! This country is QUICKLY turning into the biggest JOKE in the entire world!! Gay/straight/sideways/etc…no matter what ur preference is, if you are pissed off, offended, or whatever else u want to call it because a Phil Robertson (a person u will never even be within 100 miles of) stated his opinion on a topic that u think directly affects u, then u have NO RIGHT to feel that way because by u losing your minds and jumping on his case and boycotting the show blah blah blah, that is acting WAY MORE out of line than what he said because he was just stating an opinion and YOU are attacking him PERSONALLY!!! So in all this BS who is the attackers, and who is the attackees?!? If u dont like his opinions or views on certain matters,…….heres a suggestion………CHANGE THE CHANNEL YOU WHINY PANSY ASS FUCKTARDS!!!! Its really THAT simple!!!!

    • JoeSixpaq

      Bull. The 1st amendment protects you from the GOVERNMENT infringing on your free speech rights. This redneck idiot can still say whatever he wants. No one is going to arrest him for being an ignorant schmuck. The thing is, nobody owes him a platform, or a job. A & E is a private company. Don’t you believe that they have the right to run their business the way they see fit? What about the almighty free market? And what about the free speech rights of those who disagree with them? Why should they have to “change the channel” instead of voicing their opinions? you sound like one of those “free speech for me, but not for thee” types.

      • mcskeech

        Phil was expressing his own private opinion, he wasn’t shouting it over A&E’s airwaves. And it was said in a private interview, as far as I can tell, so if the interviewer didn’t agree with those remarks, he didn’t have to publish them, but rather chose to put it out there, knowing how everyone would attack him over it. So now we are not allowed to express our opinion of something, in private, without it affecting our employment? This is just another example of this wicked world trying to get rid of anything Christian. I don’t like Duck Dynasty much, but am very proud of Phil standing up for his principles. And I’m glad this came up. We occasionally watch things on A&E, but now that we know their public stance on the matter, they will be one more channel that we quickly flip past, looking for one more family friendly. I hope Duck Dynasty takes their show to another channel.

        • JoeSixpaq

          Yes, your employer can fire you for making them look bad. There was nothing “private” about it. He said it in a GQ interview. He knew darn well it was going to be published. It was as public as can be, i.e. the exact OPPOSITE of private. Again, A & E’s decision is the free market in action. I thought conservatives believed in that.

    • Doug

      Of course he does. And the network has every right to make any decision they like regarding the show and its performers. They are paying him remember?

      • John S

        Yes, right you are, and the Robertson’s have every right to take their show elsewhere. I wonder how A&E will like losing their highest rated show. And we, as fans, have every right to no longer watch anything on A&E, that’s how free enterprise works.

        • Steve Z

          Yep that’s the way it works. I promise you this, Phil WILL give an appology before this is all said and done. The almighty dollar is his master and he will bow.

    • Steve Z

      You need to calm down and take your meds Daniel. Get away from the TV and go out side and get some exersize. You feel better for it, I promise.

    • Katherine McChesney

      Homosexuals are bullies yet they over react over something someone says about them. They are the perverts, yet they demand respect. I have no respect for filth.

  • Kcg

    I stand with Phill too!

    • Steve Z

      Of course you do.

  • Wraith Against RichOligarchy

    I am with Phil on this one, like it or not, homosexuality is unnatural. A man & a man or a woman & a woman cannot have kids. It just doesn’t follow the Natural Order of Biology. But some people get offended because one is telling the truth. Only the blind cannot see, nor do the deaf hear. Not everyone shares the same liberal though as our big abusive leftist government.

    The true nucleus of the family is between a man & a woman, & yes, it is universally recognized as such. Only arrogant men go against even nature itself.

    • JoeSixpaq

      Like it or not, your mythology does not give you the right to call the shots for everyone. You bible thumpers have a really hard time understanding that.

      • BAD BOB

        GAY IDIOT.

        • Steve Z

          And there you have it Joe, Bob’s insightfull and intellegent response. I rest my case.

          • JoeSixpaq

            …and he’s one of the smart teabaggers.

          • Charles Sparrow

            He knows the difference between genius and stupidity is, genius has limits, or maybe he don’t.

          • Wraith Against RichOligarchy

            & you are a leftist, progressive, extreme liberal, or should I say libertine. It is not a
            free for all you know. A free for all promotes anarchy, & even nihilism.

      • Jerry

        You need some more beer. Are you a homo too?

        • JoeSixpaq

          Oh, that’s clever. I’ve never heard that one before. Except for all the times a bonehead like you has said the exact same thing. Have you ever had an original thought?

          • Jerry

            I didn’t see other comments or you before and you did not answer my question. Are you a homo.

          • JoeSixpaq

            I’m sure you didn’t see those comments. It’s just a coincidence that you goobers all a say exactly the same thing.

            No, I’m not gay. I just believe in equal rights and despise bigotry.

          • Jerry

            Refusing to tolerate evil is not bigotry. Bigotry, racist, homophobe, haters are words you libtards use to change the subject when you can’t win the argument.

          • Steve Z

            Funny that you are the one using those words Jerry? It is in fact bigotry Jerry, it is the very definition of the word. Calling Liberals Libtards? Pretty juvelile Jerry. By the way, Jesus was a Liberal.

          • Katherine McChesney

            Jesus was NOT a Liberal. He preached against government yet he said to render to Caesar. He believed in Capitalism and sharing wealth willingly. Government killed him.

          • Jerry

            Are you going to try to say that Jesus advocated gay marriage, legalizing drugs, and abortion you libtard?

          • Charles Sparrow

            U described religious beliefs.

          • Jerry

            You know Charles again I cannot understand your comment do to vagueness.

          • Charles Sparrow

            Try clearing ur mind of what’s causing ur vagueness.

          • Jerry

            Your senseless comments you possessed scum.

          • Katherine McChesney

            Yet you are bigoted against people who hold different viewpoints than you.

          • JoeSixpaq

            Yeah, gee, if I were truly tolerant, I’d tolerate your intolerance.

            Honestly, you can believe whatever you like. When you start using those beliefs to justify the denial of equal rights, that’s when I have a problem.

      • mcskeech

        So how is it different for the gay and lesbians to try to make everyone else conform to their way of thinking?

        • JoeSixpaq

          They aren’t trying to make you like them, clueless. They’re trying to achieve equality under the law. And you’re standing in the way.

        • Steve Z

          They are not trying to make anyone conform. They only want people such as you to let them live their lives with the same rights that you have. I don’t understand what the problem is with that. Live and let Live. You don’t have to change anything.

          • Katherine McChesney

            Yes they are. Even Matthew Shepherd was a bully. He kept pressuring people to engage in filthy behavior with him. It was wrong the way he died but he brought it on himself.

      • D-man

        And you secular humanists adore evolution until it blows your whole Darwinist survival of the fittest argument apart.Homosexuality doesnt fit the paradigm of your dogma, please name one civilization that’s survived we once it feeds on hedonism.It is explained in Romans 1, why it happens over and over , man turns from God and God turns man over to himself, and the ” fun” begins .

        • JoeSixpaq

          Whatever. Your mythology still does not confer special privileges upon you.

          • D-man

            Whatever.Your sexual preference still does not force me to give you special privilege either.Regressive, childish response.You sure told me Josie, hey are you one those minimum wage paid Obama internet obfuscators? Or

          • JoeSixpaq

            No one is asking for special privileges. They’re asking for equality.

      • Wraith Against RichOligarchy

        I am NOT using the Bible, I am using scientific facts. There is a Natural Order of Biology backed by Natural Selection. I want you to deny that an all gay population would mean the end of the human race. I want you to deny that gayism is not human population control. I never use scripture to refute gayism, I use science. & yes, gayism is an unnatural behavior, & I can prove it scientifically.

        Gay behavior goes against the Natural Order of Biology, & I am not making this up, it is validated by Charles Darwin’s treaty of Natural Selection. It is what it is. It is a scientific respond. I am giving you a valid answer. Let me set some examples, again, doesn’t mean it is going to happen, but just let me set examples…
        What if this nation would turn out to be an all gay nation? What then?
        a. The entire nation would grow old, there would be no kids, there would be no next generation, nor new young labor.
        b. These causes’ problems because there would be no young people to tax, there would be no young people paying for social security, nor medical care, or other national expenses. There would no youth to defend the nation, no soldiers.
        Just to set a few examples. Again, it is unlikely this will happen. But you can’t claim that homosexuality is natural because it is not.

        Humanity is not in any danger of extinction from population decline, & you are also right that heterosexuals still make up the very large majority of the population, that is also true, & unfortunately to say, but that is not going to change ever because it does follow the Natural Order of Biology. Natural Selection is clear on what the weakest link means, only those that are the strongest will perpetuate the species, the others will be eliminated over time. I am not making this up, it is what it is, & it is a fact of the biological world. As I stated, I have no religion, to have a religion binds me to be a practitioner of that religion. But I am not ignorant either. As for the Natural Order of Biology, it is an absolute truth. An all homosexual species, any species will go into extinction. You & I cannot refute that, even if we wanted to, we cannot. Sorry, it is an absolute, nature is cruel. The only reason why people practice those types of behavior right now is because they can.

      • Wraith Against RichOligarchy

        Sorry buddy, but science is no myth whatsoever. An all gay species goes into extinction. That is
        the natural order of biology. Homosexuality is behavior, not something that you are born with, that is a lie. I am not calling the shots man. I am not quoting the Good Book in this case. Natural Order of Darwin states that in order for species to perpetuate life, they have to reproduce. Homosexuality does not serve that function. I am using science here, but you clearly don’t know how to read. By any change have you even heard about Charles Darwin??? He did state Natural Selection. Gay behavior is species population control. Learn how to read, or maybe you need a set of glasses:)

    • Charles Sparrow

      Of course u r. Remember infection, contamination, disease? It’s showing.

      • Wraith Against RichOligarchy

        LoL! You are also part of the problem Mr. Sparrow, after all, you are just but another human being on this Earth. It shows…it shows as well…

  • Barry1023

    So what. The man was citing his beliefs that were ingrained in him by a healthy religious upbringing. If the gays don’t like Phil’s opinions, they can stop watching the show instead of making a stink and depriving viewers of good entertainment.

    • Charles Sparrow

      Religion-A disease which infects/contaminates the mind causing mental illness, bigotry, hate and world wide problems. Healthy? Hardly!

      • Katherine McChesney

        You are the bigot. You are hateful and intolerant you hypocrite. You fascist!

  • allen goldberg

    Agree or not, Phil’s opinion is his right. A & E needs to understand this…as LIBTARDS…they do not and will not….

    • JoeSixpaq

      Yeah, and it’s A & E’s right to fire him. He’s still perfectly free to spout his ignorance all he wants.

      • Steve Z

        That’s right, Free enterprize works both ways. What’s truely amazing is that the show is popular at all! What passes for entertainment these days says allot about the mentality of the masses. ;-)

      • Kenneth Clark

        …and the Robertsons also have every right to fire A&E. Then they are back to barely having any ratings while the Robertsons continue on with their business better than before A&E.

        • JoeSixpaq

          Ha ha ha! That’s rich. Yeah, the Robertsons fired A & E. Sure they did.

          You can’t fire me! I quit!

          • Kenneth Clark

            If you will read, you just might discover that I did not say the Robertsons fired A&E. I said the have the RIGHT to fire them. It will be interesting to see how the Robertson family handles this in the near future.

          • JoeSixpaq

            Firing your employer is called quitting. Sheesh.

          • Kenneth Clark

            You tend to forget that thr Robertsons had already built a very successful business long before A&E decided they wanted to ride on their shirt tails.

          • JoeSixpaq

            No, I didn’t forget that. Just pointing out that you can’t really “fire” your employer.

          • Kenneth Clark

            Depends on the Contract. By the way, suspension does not equal firing.

          • JoeSixpaq

            Fair point. Honestly, A & E will probably bring them back once this little kerfuffle blows over. They’re cash cows, no doubt about it.

          • Kenneth Clark

            I will be surprised if it lasts much longer than two episodes.

          • Doug

            There will be some sort of mea culpa and everyone will kiss and make up.

          • Katherine McChesney

            Some contract allow for it. If A&E is interfering with their civil rights they can fire them by claiming abuse of power or failure to live up to the contractual agreements.

          • Steve Z

            Please, get a clue. They make way more money on the “reality” show than they ever did making duck calls.

          • Kenneth Clark

            Maybe. But they certainly were not struggling before A&E and I dont think they would have any problem re-adjusting.

          • Doug

            Kenny. Get real we’re talking about a shred of dignity vs. big bucks.

          • Katherine McChesney

            His business will be booming, thanks to this turn of events. People who don’t need his products will buy them anyway in support of him.

        • Doug

          Exactly Kenny. This is a business decision pure and simple. Rest assured that the solution that brings the biggest buck will be the final one.

      • allen goldberg

        Nice that you acknowledge we still have free speech. Usually, people curb their views for fear of this type of reprisal…..do you react with the same response when a media person does the same thing? Networks do not…nor do media outlets. Completely different standards applied.