‘It’s nuts!’ Fox’s Gretchen Carlson furious at beer can pole joining Nativity in Fla. Capitol

The spokesman for a national atheists group told Fox News personality Gretchen Carlson on national television on Tuesday that Christianity “stole the season from Solstice.”

On Wednesday, a self-proclaimed “militant atheist” who placed a farcical holiday pole made of beer cans in Florida’s Capitol told local news cameras that the Nativity scene erected there last week “needs to go.”

And liberals keep saying there’s no “war on Christmas?

On “The Real Story with Gretchen Carlson,” Carlson was outraged by the plans to place the so-called Festivus pole in the Capitol rotunda to compete with a nearby Nativity scene.

“Why do I have to drive around with my kids to look for a nativity scenes and be, like, ‘Oh, yeah, kids, look, there’s baby Jesus behind the Festivus pole made out of beer cans!’ It’s nuts!”

Peter Donohue, president of the Catholic League, agreed.

“We don’t have to have the Klan out there on Martin Luther King Day with their monuments right next to a bust of Martin Luther King,” he said. “We don’t want to have neo-Nazis out there to stick it to Jews on Yom Kippur. And we shouldn’t have people out there ready to trash Christianity given that proximity.

“Let them do it some other time and some other place.”

But another time and other place wouldn’t serve the purpose, as militant atheist Chaz Stephens made clear when during a media event to mark the installation of the Festivus pole on Wednesday, he posed disgracefully with a case of Pabst beer thumbing disdainfully at the Nativity scene.

Stephens could have put up a “Festivus” pole in the Rotunda any time between December and May, according to “Seinfeld” rules. But only by putting it up while the Nativity scene is there could Stephens hope for any attention at all.

“What’s the point? There is no point. It’s ridiculous,” Stephens said, according to the Associated Press. “This is the most ridiculous thing I could come up with. This is about the separation of church and state.”

No, it’s not. It’s about the co-option of a basically harmless and mildly funny idea of a “Festivus” holiday into an attack on religion – the very religion that’s the bedrock of the Western culture that gave birth to the United States.

“He is not raising this display in order to celebrate a holiday, like the Christians with the Nativity scene or the Jews with the menorah,” Harry Mihet, a top attorney at Florida-based Liberty Counsel, told the Christian Post. “That’s what makes his display offensive, and why it should have been rejected, in my view.”

He’s raising it to attack Christians, to be deliberately offensive to practically the only group of people in the United States who can be attacked with impunity.

And liberals keep saying there’s “no war on Christmas?”

To them, it’s practically an article of faith.

Check out Carlson’s segment on the Festivus pole here:

And the sneering atheist who put up the pole in Florida’s Capitol here:

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  • Tampa Bri

    Beer is NOT the best way to get a newborn off to a healthy start. Medicine spill recommends mother’s great milk. Iy I saw the pole, I’d run it down,

    You ANTI-CHRISTIAN people are really getting to be a real pain the the you you-know-what. Did you ever believe in SANTA CLAUS? The harmless tricks played by adults should be scrapped until the child can make up his / her own mind.

    As for the GODLESS – Go for a walk on a thinly iced lake,.

    • Charles Sparrow

      Sounds just like jesus talking.

  • https://www.facebook.com/FarRightOfLeft Farrightofleft

    WRONG! It wasn’t stolen. The celebration of the birth of Christ was selected to be done during Solstice for a reason, but it was not to steal it.

    It was started BECAUSE of the moral decay being brought upon the people because of Solstice. If it weren’t for Christianity, who knows where all those people would have ended up. If you look at history, and the long list of civilizations that lost because of moral decay, we are heading there now.

    And if we let these atheists destroy the celebration of this season, we will be headed that way. FACT IS: no one knows the exact date or the hour when Jesus the Christ was born. This season was selected to celebrate the CHRISTMAS because of Solstice.

    I think that spokesman for the atheists better check her facts. AND BTW, I am a former atheist. But unlike them, I took the time to check for facts and found

    GOD IS REAL!!!!

    • Gldngrnize

      SOLSTICE WAS FOR WITCHES AND WARLOCKS AND PAGANS

      • Aaron Barnes

        many religions back then celebrated the solstice and christian religion does too just called something different. Xmas or Easter

      • Samantha Green

        Ok! Gldngrnize, I hope you are being sarcastic! The Solstice had nothing to do with witches and warlocks! Almost every civilization in the past had some ceremony in honor of it! This is an time before television,radio, etc. Knowing when the solstices and keeping track of the moon were essential in knowing when to plant, harvest, slaughter animals, store food,etc! These people saw this big yellowish orange thing in the sky that appeared to more across the sky! It effected their crops, the weather and disappear and reappear everyday! Knowing such things even then is why civilization was able to begin! Without farming we would never have been able to stay in one spot where cities could grow! It impacted their lives, it would seem only natural that they might honor it not understanding the natural processes of the Sun!

      • Doug

        Christine O’Donnell knows it.

      • Hal Barbour

        There are only witches, the word “warlock’ probably has it’s roots in Scotland, and there it meant a cunning man and these men were employed by the Clan chiefs as advisors, at the time when christians were trying to convert the Scots to christianity from paganism these men were seen by the priests to stand in the way of that conversion. So they were vilified. They may have been the last remnants of the old Druidic orders.

    • njrdn

      God Bless you! Wisdom is of God and you decided for it. God will be with you!

    • Samantha Green

      What! The solstice had nothing to due with collapses in certain empires! The solstice had to do with honoring the sun! It may seem silly to us now, however in a time before people understood natural processes it seems reasonable to honor something that had such a major impact on lives! Oh most civilization fell due to evaders! Rome fell due to evaders and stretching it’s resources to far! Also, it could be argued that we might be further without religion! I actual believe in Christ, however the early church through the dark ages wasn’t exactly opened minded to other teachings or science!

      • Charles Sparrow

        Every thing get’s blamed on people who r not religious, when in fact it’s religion and the conflict and strife it causes that usually destroys empires.

    • Doug

      Flip flopper. Is this Marco Rubio?

      • Charles Sparrow

        Good one. I misunderstood one of ur other posts and thought u were agreeing with crazy Jerry sorry.

    • Charles Sparrow

      Maybe th Christians can sve us from moral decay like they did the American Indians by Slaughtering them. U idiot.

    • Hal Barbour

      The moral decay because of the Sostice? This I gotta hear! How does the observation of the shortest day of the year contribute to the moral decay of society? and your other obtuse statement concerning where all those people would have ended up if not for christianity. We know where they ended up, most were killed by the church. after the failed conquest of the holy lands in 1292 the christian church turned back on upon Europe and persecuted pagans, apostates and the excommunicated and the inquisitition and the witch hunts were started. Hundreds of thousands of human beings were executed or burned at the stake.
      You being a so-called former atheists should know this, and for your information Easter is an observation of the first sunday after the full moon following the spring equinox, a completely lunar observation and the very word “Easter” is a corruption of “Eostre” who was a pagan goddess of the anglo-saxons, a fertility goddess, ergo, rabbits and eggs! The depth of ignorance is astonishing!!

  • EliseR

    The difference between the Solstice and Christmas is only the Solstice is based on FACT. Christmas is based on a made-up story, and even biblical scholars will tell you that the historical person referred to as Jesus was most likely born in the springtime, according to the biblical story — not anywhere near the winter solstice.

    • Lynn Terry

      Christian at the time were persecuted even unto death, for their beliefs. They took pagan ideas and incorporated them so they could practice their faith and not die.

      • Samantha Green

        Actual it had to do with the Romans not the Christians! It was Romes way of having the population of Rome convert with as little fuss as possible! Having anyone convert to a different religion isn’t easy, so you allow them to keep a celebration!

      • Samantha Green

        Also remember sometimes the persecuted sometimes become the persecutor! At one time just trying to figure out illnesses or saying the Earth went around the Sun would get you put to death by the Church!

    • Rob

      Oh please Elise . . . give it a rest will you? Believe what you want, but don’t mock those who believe in the virginal birth of Christ as the Son of God.

      • Charles Sparrow

        Yes we will mock it because like religion, it’s just stupid.

        • Rob

          Charles, you just can’t help yourself, can you? You just can’t resist insulting your fellow citizens with your insensitive rants. One can only conclude you’re an elitist that somehow is threatened by Christians and their beliefs. Sad . . .

          • Charles Sparrow

            It’s the F’ing u get, For the F’ing u give. How does it feel? Religion is getting just what it deserves. It’s very existence insults me.

          • Rob

            Get some help Charles. Being insulted by religion indicates you’ve got some pent up anger that needs addressing.

          • Charles Sparrow

            My anger will disappear when religion does.

    • allan

      There is a lot of debate on the subject of when Jesus was born; some say it was around June / July; shepherds were out tending their flocks; Guaranteed they would not be tending them in winter; The 25th of December was a day of ROMAN taxation; everyone to return to their birth of origin to pay and be recorded;; If on individual wants to give someone a gift in appreciation they can do that any given time of the year; It was and is a day of giving; and the ROMANS capitalized on that fact; and of course it was right up the JEWS alley; The Christians played the atheists/ pagans game of taking the ideas and utilizing them in way that benefited them and not get killed; Man is the UGLIEST BEAST of all genders; that can be seen in today’s world as well; in fact it is even more prevalent; it is just as it has been four eons upon eons;

    • Bethaney Riley

      I really don’t care when my Lord and Savior was born. I am just glad that I have a personal relationship with him. The Bible talks more about hell than heaven. Hmmm. I wonder why that is?

      • Samantha Green

        No it does not!

        • Doug

          Now girls, no arguing during Jesus’ birthday season.

      • EliseR

        The Bible talks about hell to scare people. Some of us don’t need myths of hell to motivate us to behave appropriately. Apparently many so-called Christians do.

        • Doug

          The stock market this month is scary enough.

        • Jerry

          You are a gay marriage loving, dope legalizing, abortion baby killing liberal demon. You are not appropriate sucker.

          • Charles Sparrow

            And u r a religious lunatic-most r-religious and lunacy compliment each other.

          • Jerry

            You don’t know how proud I am when liberals and atheist call me names. It just tells me I am on the right path in this life. Thank you so much to you and your demons also.

        • Charles Sparrow

          Now look what u’ve done. U’ve upset Jerry-again. U know what he’s like when he hasn’t had his meds.

          • Jerry

            Not upset and not on any meds.

          • Jerry

            Is your name Sparrow because your brain is the size of a sparrows brain?

          • Charles Sparrow

            What little I may have is not infected and contaminated by the disease of religion giving me an excuse not to use it.

          • Jerry

            And little does an atheist have. Where did you go so wrong?

          • Charles Sparrow

            I say the same thing about u. It’s like a dog chasing it’s tail. It accomplishes nothing. We should not impose our beliefs on others, especially by using gov. property to do it.

          • Jerry

            I still own my own soul. That is what counts to me. Problem is you liberals are always looking for more and more ways to take other peoples money that they don’t owe. For example if a homo wants to have anal sex and they get aides you have no right to force others to pay for health care. You liberals have no right to make churches pay for abortions and birth control that they have always been against under the threat of fines that would close them down. You truly are satanic whether you believe it or not.

          • Charles Sparrow

            U truly r confused.

          • Jerry

            Why can’t you atheist and liberals ever be specific. Why don’t you just go to hell loser. It is you infernal liberals and atheists that are pushing socialism. I wish I could make you pinks try to take that money from me by force and see how far you get.

          • Charles Sparrow

            Jerry, Jerry, Jerry, my dear, simple minded, childlike fellow-force and violence is the Christian supremacists way. We Atheists will use the courts to take ur money and have the judge instruct u to write us a letter of apology and order u to like it. How ya like them apples, sluggo?

          • Jerry

            You still can’t back up what you say and your condemnation is coming. What do you claim I am confused about? Its so good that God sent AIDS for homos and atheists.
            Please be well advised I am no dear of yours. Now you sound queer. I would never apologize to you. Got to go , I’m watching O’Reilly. He’s talking about the trials you queers and atheists are trying to make people cater to faggiages.
            Two men and 2 women together will never be a marriage, perhaps a condemnation but never a marriage. You are as senseless as can be. Show this to your judge. Better yet make it a genital licking judge.
            You will surely never erase our bible no matter what you try. You and all your demons combined. Soon God will separate us and our kind from you and your kind whether you believe it or not.

          • Charles Sparrow

            Sure u ain’t interested in group sex Jerry? Hell, I am. The more the merrier. Watching O’Reilly meself-always know what ur enemies r thinking. What say u, me, Huckabee, O’reilly, Palin, Bachman, Hasselbeck, and Carlson get nekked and git in a great big pile and waller ’round? Gee doesn’t that sound like fun, but I’m going to keep an eye on u and make sure u stay away from all the men-especially me. Just kidding Jer. U sound kinda hot!

          • Jerry

            Your sounding like a fa**ot and you still don’t address my point. You are deviating from my point because you cannot win the argument.

          • Charles Sparrow

            The only point u have made is that u r are a unreasonable religious nut. Is there any other kind.

          • Jerry

            Their you go again pinkie. Calling me a nut does not win the argument. Those demons have your mind blocked so bad you can’t see how blind you are.
            You are a perfect example of a biblical fool. You will surely never erase our bible no matter what you losers try. You and all your demons combined. Soon God will forever separate us and our kind from you and your kind. Have a good hell whether you believe it or not.
            I repeated myself because you are incapable of addressing my ” you still can’t back up what you say and your condemnation is coming point.”

          • Charles Sparrow

            The worst people in the world hide behind religious beliefs, the worst thing in the world.

          • Jerry

            Be specific and tell me why I am wrong Lazy Charles. Include why I am wrong on all my points. And secondly the real reason you hate religion is because the devil, due to your blindness, is making you think you hate religion because it makes him condemned forever. He is still condemned no matter what he does, period.

          • Charles Sparrow

            I’ve been doing that for three days and u still don’t get it. It’s like talking to a brick wall. Even I have my limits. Go talk to ur toaster-again.

          • Jerry

            Being lazy and just calling me stupid is not answering my points. Are you a homo? Tell me what I don’t get. Back up what you say loser.

          • Charles Sparrow

            Go away-Mental boy.

          • Jerry

            Fact is you cannot back up anything you say. Are you going to hell loser demon? I don’t know your life, for all I know there may be hope for you. I do know you and demons will never make us and our religion go away.

          • Charles Sparrow

            U show me ur’s and i’ll show u mine. U will not put ur’s on public without challenge.

          • Jerry

            What are you talking about. Sounds weird.

          • Charles Sparrow

            U point out where god is, and i’ll point out where he’s not. We will keep ur religion off our public property. When someone tells u u have no right to be there and they don’t want u, u should have the decency to go away.

          • Jerry

            I suggest you curse God and commit suicide. You have nothing to exist for. You and/ or your bloodline must have done some terrible sins. By the way God is everywhere. One more time, have I been arguing with a demon possessed homo?

      • Charles Sparrow

        Because there are always gullible, simple minded people like u to swallow that crap.

      • Charles Sparrow

        When people have imaginary friends-Hmmmm. I wonder why that is? It’s ur brain on religion, any questions?

    • Gldngrnize

      WHO CARESEXACTLY WHEN..IT IS TO OBSERVE AND CELEBRATE THE BIRTH OF JESUS CHRIST AND THE WHEN HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH A CENSUS

      • Don Sebold

        Because if HE doesn’t fulfill all the Messianic prophecies spoken of HIM including HIS birth HE is not Messiah…..and a day is coming when that will be extremely important

        • Gldngrnize

          …and you know all prophecies are exact with no deviations, as written in stone and can never change…research the libel bible and list the prophecies that are on the mark and those that are completely false and unrelated to Jesus Chris…shouldn’t be too difficul with your intelligent and analytical mind
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        • 1Melody1

          He fulfilled every single prophecy, right down to where he was born. Check your information Don. Every single prophesy, missing none! Ask a Messianic Jew. Get a concordance and read all 2000 plus prophecies.

          • Don Sebold

            Not the FALL Feasts…if that was true HE would have returned.and I am a Messianic Jew myself….if you have the sod level understanding of the Feasts of the LORD wich by the way are for ALL believers in Messiah…Trumpets,Sukkot still have not….:)

    • Aaron Barnes

      so true i did a paper about this in college and i learned that the christian church uses many pagan tradition in used it as their own. moving Jesus bday to DEC. was to go inside with the winter solace and Easter is moved to spring to celebrate spring solace. deteriorating a xmas tree was a German pagan tradition, they would cut down a tree and put apples on it, and candles. They church did this to try to make their religion better than the pagan ones so people would convert to Christianity. The resurrection of jesus was similar to an ancient Egypt story about Iris or Horus one of the Egyptain god don’t remember which one. The story about the great flood in the bible was also a story that many ancient civs told or write stories about. it was the First Council of Nicaea that had Jesus bday moved to 25 of Dec. and Easter in spring.

      • 1Melody1

        Easter is a pagan tradition. Many so called Christian churches are ignorant. Christianity celebrates, Resurrection Sunday, not Easter.

        • Aaron Barnes

          they are both on the same day

    • Pamela K. Cahoon Laub

      @Elise R. – Every day is listed with a.d. after it. Today is Dec. 12, 2013 a.d. – anno domini – after the Lord. Even historical records acknowledge the life of Jesus. Fools who deny Him will have eternity to regret it. TROLL!

      • Anthonyshc Boubonis

        oooooo, you scare me. hey name caller, got anything truthful to say? no? well, again, the church shifted dates around,, kings changed the calender around, so what does your A.D. mean? NOTHING.. If you take our calender, and add 5 more days in February, and take away 10 in March, add 15, in August completely through away November, what do you get? yes they are all in a.d.. when’s christmas? when’s easter? well folks she’s,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a, and you called a person a TROLL? who’s the troll now? pick up a mirror, and have a look, church lady,

        • Gldngrnize

          ,,,,previous to A.D…..IT WAS CALLED…..B.C.E………….BEFORE THE COMMON ERA….JUST THOUGHT I WOULD MENTION IT ~~~~~~~~

          • Pamela K. Cahoon Laub

            Leftists choose to be hateful. I’m going to ignore them. The ignore b.c. and a.d. and what it represents. God bless you.

          • EliseR

            Yes, ignore the facts. Joyous Solstice!

          • Charles Sparrow

            Don’t forget, we ignore the fantasy of god, religion, and nuts like u too.

      • Doug

        Real person no question. Divine….matter of opinion.

      • Charles Sparrow

        Eternity to regret it. What a stupid thing to say, based on the fantasy that exist in ur delusional, religion infected mind. I hope u don’t have a job where people depend on u for care. U and those lie u r mentally ill and dangerous.

      • 1Melody1

        Amen!

    • Eric

      So what, hater?

      • Charles Sparrow

        Everyone is a hater, right? U and Jerry should see a religious de-programmer/shrink. I hear they r running a 2 for 1 special on really delusional religion infected minds.

    • Anthonyshc Boubonis

      Elise, you are right. what happened was the changing of the calender. to reflex better the changing of the season’s

    • Jerry

      Elise, you loser demon. I AM STILL WAITING FOR YOU TO ANSWER MY COMMENT.
      Did you notice that in the previous article that justme has only 1 down vote to 240 up votes. The only down vote is probably yours. Do you notice you have 46 down votes for your comment? You stated that justme should be seeking help. Are you sure you are not the one who should be seeking help? If I had your record I would be ashamed to post a comment. Did you think I was going to let you forget just because you went to another article?

      • Charles Sparrow

        Majority of people r ignorant religiously deluded losers, like u and Scalia with ur demons.

        • Jerry

          Again you liberals and atheist refuse to address the topic of my point. Those demons truly have one strong hold on you. The point I cited is mathematical fact about EliseR. Even she can’t respond. You are less than zero atheist. You cannot be anymore stupid than what you are.

  • EliseR

    And in other FOX Christmas nonsense, Megyn Kelly insists Jesus was white

    • Bethaney Riley

      Aren’t most Jews white?

      • EliseR

        American Jews usually have lighter skin. Most Biblical scholars believe Jesus likely looked like what we would think a man of middle eastern descent looks like. Early artistic renderings of Jesus usually showed him with dark skin. European artists started portraying him with light skin to look European.

        • Eric

          Again, why are you so filled with hate?

    • Pamela K. Cahoon Laub

      The color of His skin doesn’t matter. Every nation sees Him in their mirror: black, white, Asian…

      • Doug

        Right. What do the pictures of Jesus look like in your home and church.

    • Eric

      Why are you so filled with hate?

    • Gldngrnize

      HE JUST WASN’T BLACK AND SO WERE MOST OF THE OTHER PEOPLE

      • Samantha Green

        There is actual no way of knowing this and to be honest does it matter! If Jesus came up to you and her looked like Morgan Freeman would it matter to you?

        • Doug

          It would to lots of people on this site.

    • Jerry

      So what. The fact is he was white.

      • Doug

        Like Jerry.

        • Jerry

          You right for once, I am white. Should I be ashamed?

          • Doug

            Not in the least. I love the fact I’m white but I don’t denigrate others who are not.

          • Jerry

            I am not degenerating anyone because of their race color or anything. I degenerate people no matter what they are usually because of their liberalism and demonic ideas. I also don’t like when these liberals make a comment or accusation and won’t prove or back up their comment and then go to another article and try to put the same comment past someone. For example I have repeatedly challenged eliseR on her comments and followed her to other articles to ask her the same question from a previous article. I promise you it has nothing to do with race and the vast majority of the time I don’t know what they are.

          • Charles Sparrow

            Ur posts show the vast majority of the time there is a lot u don’t know.

          • Jerry

            Sure there is a lot I don’t know but its less than you don’ know atheist demon. You and your kind are going down.

  • vonnise

    Funny, this story is not getting this idiot much attention in Florida!!

  • Gldngrnize

    ISLAM.AND ATHEISTS ARE NOT RELIGIONS…THEY ARE CULT AND PHILOSOPHIES. ISLAM WAS FRAMED UP BY A PEDOPHILE TO CATER TO MEN AND TO SUBJUGATE WOMEN..THE KORAN IS THEIR PLAYBOOK. ATHEISTS ARE BASELESS PEOPLE WHO ARE UNABLE TO REALIZE AND ACCEPT THAT PRAYERS TO A BEING HIGHER THAN THEMSELVES CAN RESULT IN MIRACLES.
    FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS HUMAN BEINGS HAVE ALWAYS LOOKED TO A DEITY AND THOSE WHO DIDN’ T WERE AND STILL ARE CONSIDERED PAGANS

    • Samantha Green

      Again, no! Pagans for most was a term to describe people of different religions! The Romans worshipped Jupiter when the went to modern day Britain, those people were pagans! The native americans were pagans and barbarians! The Isrealites would have could peoples of other religions gentiles! Some think it mostly referred to the Greeks! As far as Islam, you may disagree with how they see God, but to call it a cult would mean christianity is too! Judaism, Christianity, and Islam all worship the God of Abraham! I have always thought it was sad that jews and muslims fight when they both are supposed to be descendants of Abraham through Isaiah and Ishmael! You may think that jews and muslims are wrong, but to say it isn’t a religion is silly!

      • Terita Joanne McCoy

        Sorry but I must disagree! Islam IS AN OCCULT not a religion! ANYTHING OF THE DEVIL IS AN OCCULT!! PERIOD!!

        • Samantha Green

          So the God of Abraham is a cult! That is what the Muslims and Jews believe too! I don’t think you actual understand what a cult is! David Koresh believed in Jesus but still he and his followers were in a cult!

  • Don Sebold

    Lets get something straight….Jesus,YESHUA in Hebrew after all He is a Jew…He was NOT born on a pagan holiday…He was born during the FEASTS OF THE LORD called Feast OF Tabernacles in Sept/Oct depending on the phase of the moon….so actually christmas is not the birth of the biblical Messiah….He has to come according to biblical prophesy in order to fulfill Gods will…Yeshua has to fulfill the fall feasts….read Exodus,Leviticus,Deuteronomy…..these Feasts are for the believers to keep including those who have been grafted in to the natural,olive tree Israel….so the atheists are in error themselves….if you truly read both the Hebrew Scriptures and the Apstolic scriptures Yeshua did NOT come to start or create a new religion….Christianity itself is a man made religion…Yeshua was born,lived,died,resurrected and will return as a Jew…read Isaiah…

    • Pamela K. Cahoon Laub

      Yet the Jews refuse to acknowledge Him as Messiah. Christians are followers of Christ who acknowledge that He was born, died and rose again as a Jew.

    • Gldngrnize

      CHRISTIANS WERE FOLLOWERS OF CHRIST AND HIS TEACHINGS WHICH PUT A LITTLE SPIN ON JUDAISM. MANY THINGS IN THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH REMIND A PERSON OF JEWISH HOLIDAYS…CONFESSION OF SINS AND MANY OTHERS. HEAR O ISRAEL, THE LORD OUR G-D, THE LORD IS ONE ! IN THAT TIME FRAME..PEOPLE WORSHIPED MANY GODS FOR DIFFERENT REASONS….THE LORD IS ONE BUT CHRISTIANS CAME UP WITH THE TRINITY..THREE IN ONE GOD. THE FATHER . THE SON AND THE HOLY GHOST SO PEOPLE WHO WERE USED TO SO MANY GODS WOULDN’T GET CONFUSED WITH CHRISTIANITY AND THEY COULD RELATE.

  • 1Melody1

    God will deal with these people, He always does

    • Doug

      Life is simple for you isn’t it?

    • Charles Sparrow

      MDC?1Melody1-partners in mental illness.

      • 1Melody1

        So sorry for you Charles

        • Charles Sparrow

          U should be happy for me that my mind is not infected and contaminated by the disease of religion. Save sorry for urself.

  • MDC

    God did what He new was proper at that time.
    In case you never new, God’s timing is perfect.
    His day be done.

  • Mlm46

    The date that is celebrated by Christians of Jesus’s birth does not have to be exact, just a yearly celebration of it. Everyone getting their panties in a twist over this is counterproductive. The idea of peace on earth has been lost by mean spiritedness! Everyone is entitled to believe whatever they want, but can we have some respect for those that want to enjoy their holidays no matter what their beliefs are? Whether you are Christian, Jewish, Muslim, etc, or atheist, can we just let each group enjoy their holiday? How is it hurting anyone? How about being more civil this holiday season and letting those that want to celebrate their holiday enjoy it without the hassles of the antireligious!