Passionate atheist to Bill O’Reilly: ‘Religion kills people’

Fox News host Bill O’Reilly found out Saturday why atheists are so opposed to Christmas: It represents a mix of “religion and government,” according to one atheist activist.

The night before, O’Reilly asked Chris Stedman, a humanist chaplain, why atheists couldn’t leave Christmas alone, wondering,“Are they that bitter against religion?”

“I think that the separation of church and state is in place to ensure the government does not privilege any one religion over another,” Stedman said on the “O’Reilly Factor,” adding that Christmas displays in public places should include displays reflecting many religions – and even those from non-religious groups.

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Dave Muscato
Photo credit: Raw Story

In an interview published Saturday in the Raw Story, Dave Muscato of American Atheists Inc. responded to O’Reilly’s rants on the war on Christmas with his own take on how atheists view the holiday.

“Bill O’Reilly has this fantasy that Christians are being persecuted,” Muscato told Raw Story. “Bill O’Reilly is the epitome of a privileged person; a straight, white, cisgender American. The reason that he’s obsessed with this ‘War on Christmas’ is because he knows there’s nothing he’s really being oppressed by.”

Muscato described himself as a “passionate atheist,” not an “angry atheist,” adding that anger can be effective in activism. The issue isn’t so much about Christmas or Christianity, but the “mixing of religion and government,” he said, according to Raw Story.

“It’s not that we were hurt by religion and we’re bitter,” Muscato said. “It’s that we’re concerned about religion hurting people now and in the future, and we want to keep that from happening by keeping religion in the private realm.”

“Religion does more than just hurt people,” he added. “Religion kills people. There are reports from all over the globe of religious persecution ending in people’s deaths.”

Watch O’Reilly’s segment here via Fox News:

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  • aliswell

    Actually, humanism is by far the greatest cause of human misery, suffering, torture and murder than any religion ever was.

    Humanism, which forms the foundation of Socialism, Marxism, Fascism, Communism and every other “ism,” is a diseased, soulless system of thought that places humans above God (as God is nonexistent to humanists). Despite humanism having been around since creation (yes, creation) and having a 100% failure rate throughout every society it’s been implemented in, the godless continue their push to foist it on the masses.

    Throughout human history untold millions upon countless millions have perished as the result of humanism. Epitomizing the ultimate in narcissistic self-centeredness, humanism embraces the carnal surrender to the loudest and most obnoxious, the surrender to worldly principles of selfishness, self-seeking, self-fulfillment, self-aggrandizement, self-actualization, self-worship, and total abandonment of God.

    How ironic that humanists pour their energy into eradicating the one true living, loving God from not only their own lives but the lives of everyone else, never realizing that they’re still serving a god, howbeit one who hates them.

    • Brian Westley

      Yes, it’s soooo much less narcissistic to believe the creator of the universe is a personal friend.

      BWAHAHAHAHA!

      • aliswell

        You seem to have misunderstood, as I would never call God my personal friend. He’s not my equal, but my Guide and God, my Shepherd, my Heavenly Father, my Lord and Savior.

      • Eric

        Narcissistic like Barack Obama, num nutts?

        • Jason

          Correction – NO nutts

      • Jason

        effeminate twit

    • Mark Moore

      Humanism has nothing to do with communism. They are different ideas. Jesus doesn’t like you lying.

      • aliswell

        Humanism is the foundation of communism. Communism can’t exist without it, and doesn’t.

        Only when you are fully acquainted with Jesus will you be in a position to tell me what He does and doesn’t like.

        • Rafael Lopez

          Jesus was a very special man, but he can’t tell you anything- he has been dead for a very long time.

          • Theresa Easley

            Wrong. If you read the Bible it tells about him rising from the tomb.

    • robbiedobbs

      you forgot CAPITALISM. It’s led to the deaths of millions.

      • aliswell

        Humanism tops the charts insofar as human deaths and human suffering. Nothing comes close, and capitalism doesn’t even register as a blip on that radar.

        • robbiedobbs

          so what is your solution? should humans just go away?

          • aliswell

            No, absolutely not. The point is that humanists are anti-God. They don’t want God in their lives, yet history repeatedly proves we humans can NOT succeed without God. We can’t function without devolving into animals unless we make God our foundation. And I’m talking about the I AM, Judeao-Christian God, not some pagan or Islamic god.

            The solution is to make God our foundation and to follow His laws.

          • kerston

            They just don’t believe in God. That doesn’t mean anti God. You can’t force yourself to believe something you don’t.

          • robbiedobbs

            huh? God has NEVER shown himself. you write in your books that he will show up one day, but he still hasn’t come. So what you have written is incorrect. We have succeeded for billions of years as a planet without god. so pathetic, can’t even use logic, just use the “man in the sky” argument. If god is real he will strike me down now, and I wont post a response to you again

          • aliswell

            I write in my books that God will show up some day? No, I never wrote that, but godly men wrote of the upcoming event which was later put in a “book.”

            “We” have succeeded for “billions of years as a planet” without God? How do “we” succeed “as a planet?” Without God there’d be no planet.

            God has NEVER shown himself? You see His image every time you look in the mirror or at another human being.

            “If God is real he will strike me down now…” Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.

            Robbie, you seem to think that Faith is a form of weakness, when in fact it’s a source of strength, requiring humility,
            discipline, and denial of self, whereas humanists feel free to wallow in carnal
            narcissism, self-worship, and whatever wanton whims waft upon the wind of any given day. My Faith is not a result of convenience and ease, My Faith is a result of the evidence I’ve witnessed in my own life, the lives of others, the influence of the Holy Spirit on my soul, and meticulous research and study of God’s Word.

            If you really want to challenge yourself and embark on a journey of discovery, get a reference Bible and start studying. How can you logically loathe a book you’ve never even read, or are you such a closed book you dare not?

          • robbiedobbs

            I have faith that the flying spaghetti monster is real. He is my god. He is real. Your god is the fake one.

          • Jason

            You’re gay, and anyone whose mind is so warped that he doesn’t know a bodily exit from a bodily entrance is naturally going to have mental issues.

          • robbiedobbs

            I am gay. yes. and you are a troll, stuck on my d*ck. wanna meet?

          • Wraith Against RichOligarchy

            You know, you attack the Christians of the United States, you people don’t realize that you do have worse enemies in other places. Go to a place where shariah law is the law of the land, & see what happens. They do kill gays & atheists as well. Zero tolerance for you people in those nations. So think about how fortunate you people are. Maybe you are attacking the wrong crowd.

            As for your invitation, no thank you, I am a man, love women, your loss, my gain. The more you people are out there, the more chicks for me. Have a great day, & enjoy your life, I enjoy my chicks which I worship like goddesses…mmm…women…what would men do without women I wonder??? Plus, men are quite boring. For me, women are much more interesting…

          • Rafael Lopez

            I don’t believe in “God’, however, god supposed to be one for all believers.

          • aliswell

            Not at all. Many gods are worshipped but there is only one true God, the I AM, the Triune God of Abraham and Moses.

            Would you say the god countless pagans have committed human sacrifice to is the same God that gave His only begotten Son to atone for our sins? Heaven forbid!

          • Rafael Lopez

            Christians have committed more human sacrifices than all pagans put together. Are you forgetting the inquisition and the crusades?

          • aliswell

            You might want to rethink that claim, Rafael.

            The Spanish Inquisition, which spanned about 140 years, held about 49,000 trials during that time, resulting in anywhere from 3,000 to 5,000 deaths.

            With regards to the numerous Crusades which began, as you likely know, in response to the rise of Islam and their persecution an annihilation of the M.E. Christian populations, it could probably be calculated that 1 and half million people ~ Muslims, Jews, pagans and Christians combined ~ perished over the course of their 200 year span.

            However, few if any records on war and sacrificial deaths have been kept by pagans, so estimating their kills can be tougher to pin down. However, based on eyewitness accounts and Aztec claims, there are estimates that in the 15th century the Aztecs in central Mexico sacrificed as many as 250,000 men, women and children per year, although others estimate approximately 20,000 per annum. If we were to accept the low figure that would still amount to 2,000,000 sacrifices alone by just that one culture during that one period.

          • Rafael Lopez

            You are right about the numerical probabilities, but my point is that pagans don’t a monopoly on atrocities, sacrificing somebody in a ritual is not that much different than killing people in wars or by proxies.

          • Wraith Against RichOligarchy

            You know… your scientists have committed genocide, so your account is not true. With science the cities of Hiroshima & Nagasaki were obliterated, with a nuke, so I think you should get your facts straight. Science doesn’t have all the answers, & religions are not entirely all the problem. It is mankind that causes all the destruction.

          • Rafael Lopez

            I have succeeded without a “god” and I am a good human being as any one can be.

          • Jason

            That was Stalin’s solution. You know the atheist guy.

          • robbiedobbs

            i dont think atheism had anything to do with it. can you prove his not having religion made him do it.

        • Rafael Lopez

          You poor acumen-less uncultured soul! You need to read a lot more to make intellectual comments.

          • aliswell

            Just an FYI, Rafael, as English is clearly not your 1st language: There is no such word as acumen-less.

            You seem lost, son.

          • Rafael Lopez

            It is not one word dad. by the way, English is only one of the several languages I teach.

      • Jon Hawk

        you are wrong and drinking too much of the liberal koolaide…you are most likely one that will believe anything the lame Stream media and Obama tells you…go play in your sandbox and let the adults handle this conversation

    • kerston

      Aren’t we created in HIS image?

      • Jason

        Well, YOU sure aren’t.

  • Pat

    ٩(^‿^)۶ ٩(^‿^)۶ ٩(^‿^)۶

    Happy Hannukkah! Happy Kwanzaa! Merry Christmas! Season’s Greetings! Happy Holidays!

    You should say, “Thank you! You too!”

    …because honestly, if you can’t see past the words of the wish to its good intent, then it’s not the holiday well-wisher who’s broken, it’s you.

    Be a good human. Wish someone well this holiday season. Use whatever expression you’d like.

    http://i.imgur.com/lGrUGkx.jpg

    • Eric

      Kwanzza is a hate whitey holiday.

      • Jason

        It’s no holiday at all, purely an invention that Hallmark hoped to get some mileage from.

    • Wraith Against RichOligarchy

      :D

  • Andy Mansfield

    I find the best thing to do when someone tells you they are an atheist is to smile politely and walk away sloooowly. It is like they have all been programmed to think a certain way. Best avoided in my opinion.

    • robbiedobbs

      aren’t christians, or religious people of any kind for that matter, the programmed ones. Religious people follow books with rules telling them what they can and cannot do. Atheists believe that you can do whatever you want to do, as long as it doesn’t hurt your fellow man/woman. I think you have it backwards. It is religious folk who are programmed to think certain ways. For example, christians are supposed to go to church every sunday. By definition, that is a programmed thing to do. Where as atheists believe in using science and technology to better improve our lives. The computer you are typing on was created by SCIENTISTS, not some figment of your imagination that is in the sky somewhere.

      • Preacherpicker .

        You lack the understanding of what a christian is. Being christian is not about do’s or dont’s. It’s about a relationship. I go to church not because I have to, I go because I desire to meet there. Much like a boyfriend goes to see his girlfriend. Not because he has to, but because he wants to.

        The computer I’m typing on came about because the “Scientists” you refer to had the God given talent to apply their brain. Who were these scientist? Blaise Pascal and Charles Babbage; Both Christian men.

        • robbiedobbs

          Lol, you have obviously never had a Girlfriend. no one is more programmed than a boyfriend. LOL. you are a propagandist. SHame on you, and I feel bad for your family as you LIE to them

          • Preacherpicker .

            By your response you also lack the ability to have a coherent argument. This is why I rarely respond to blogs or comments. It’s a constant repeat of make fun of the argument, throw in a lol, because you have no real response then start throwing out names (propagandist? I didn’t leave anything out of my statement to promote my cause and I never leave anything out) in some manner to somehow make yourself think your intelligence is far superior. Much like a 4th grader the argument turns to “you’re stupid. no, you’re stupid” Good day sir and have a great life.

          • Jason

            Gosh, you atheists know how to debate. “Shame on you.” Great stuff there.

      • Andy Mansfield

        you obv take your materialist faith seriously

      • Jason

        Yeah atheists are on the right track. Check out photos of some of the parades and rallies held in Russia, with those enormous portraits of Marx, Lenin, and Stalin. Instead of worshipping the sky god, they worshipped people who ordered mass killings of human beings. Nice ideology you got there. Worship of humans might be OK, worshipping the vilest humans is not so good.

        • robbiedobbs

          my new troll friend. hello troll

      • Andy Mansfield

        lol no robbie, you seem very naive.

    • kerston

      Yeah that is what Jesus would do. Not too many hypocrites here….

      • Andy Mansfield

        im not jesus

      • Jason

        We’ve gotten accustomed to the all-purpose “hypocrites,” along with “haters” and “bigots,” so you’re losing some of your zing. If you mean “Christians aren’t perfect,” the only sane response is “well, duh, we knew that.” If “hypocrite” means “someone who says something I don’t agree with,” well, then you’re an idiot and have no clue what “hypocrite” even means.

    • Rafael Lopez

      I find the same to be the best thing to do when someone tells you they religious fanatics.

      • Andy Mansfield

        good luck with that raf

  • princesssong

    they don’t like it Because Satan doesn’t like it!! So it makes sense..

    • Mark Meeks

      True. Satan doesn’t like it, but consider this. If atheists don’t believe in the existence of God, then doesn’t it follow that they don’t believe in the existence of Satan either? Because true Christians believe in the existence of both.

      • princesssong

        That could be Mark, but whether they believe in Satan or not, HE does and will use them. and they will know when there time is up..

        • Mark Meeks

          That is so true.

      • Jason

        Oh, trust me, their ideology DOES have a Satan – he’s called “Christian.” You can have an ideology or a religion without a God, but not without a Satan. They have to have an enemy they can despise, there is nothing else that unites them.

        • Wraith Against RichOligarchy

          Still, there is the existence of human nature. Good & evil do exist. All the killings in this world corroborate it. On the other hand, if a medical doctor helps the
          sick & saves lives, then something good came out of it. All action has a reaction,
          all cause has an effect; & individuals can alter the reality that surrounds
          them for good or for bad. Please, explain this to all of us with science if you can, I insist.

      • Rafael Lopez

        Both entities exist only in the imagination of those who want to believe in them.

        • Wraith Against RichOligarchy

          You cannot deny the existence of good & evil… so sorry to break it to you, but good &
          evil do exist. They are not relative; the both of them are quite tangible. Your science cannot explain good & evil. So answer me, if someone kills another, is that good? Or if someone does harm to you, is that good for you? You should reconsider your statements; your science doesn’t have all the answers.

    • kerston

      If they don’t believe in God they don’t believe in Satan. They aren’t satanist. Wow people here making some wild assumptions.
      Then again I guess you are O’Reilly fans.LOL

      • Jason

        You mistake “fans” with “worshipers.” It’s the atheist nerds who JO to pics of Obama. You always pick out some human gods to worship – real fine specimens like Stalin and Mao.

        • Wraith Against RichOligarchy

          Sigh…it was the atheists, gays, lesbians, transsexuals, socialists, communists, liberals, muslims, the misinformed, everyone that follows a progressive agenda, & this list is very short, it goes on. It was anyone that was looking for a new messiah, but obama is no messiah, he is just a man.

  • Michael J. Andrews

    On top of all that…his guest is gay as well. Very well rounded individual.

    • Jason

      Did you mean “well pounded”?

      • Wraith Against RichOligarchy

        LoL!!! XD Unnatural!!!… A true marriage is between a man & a woman, that follows the natural order of biology for the preservation of the species & the
        sanctity of the family nucleus. There is a reason why man & woman were created…

  • James Clarke

    I am not a scientist but I think just because a scientist can prove how everything in the universe works doesn’t mean that God didn’t create the universe to work that particular way.

    • derpollisauce

      I agree, we may never know how, or if the universe ever came into existence. As an atheist, I just hold the default stance of I don’t know, the universe works in mysterious ways.

      • Bernardo Jimenez

        Well Yes we can know how with sense… consider this friends.

        Lets say there are 3 possible ways the universe couldve been created it couldve been created by God self created or always existed..

        Self created… For the universe to be self created must mean something came outta nothing (big bang) but thats inpossible because it opposes the law of matter something cant come from nothing itd be like saying i can make a Iphone 5S appear outta thin air from nothing that cant happen because agin something cant come from nothing

        Always Existed since everything has a beginning and an end we can tell that at one point it had to be created and it had to have an end same withour universe since stars are dying we can see they had a beginning and have an end so they couldnt have always existed

        God created…. the universe was simply created my God himself… as it says in Genesis 1:1 in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth… simply put just as allof us in this earth created something God created us and a creation cant be self made or always exist it must have a creator

      • Wraith Against RichOligarchy

        In other words you know nothing, like Socrates stated…wise man…

      • Wraith Against RichOligarchy

        Prove to all of us that the Universe was created with the Big Bang. I challenge you…it is just a theory, & science does have its limits as well. Men is limited. That is an absolute truth.

    • Jason

      Well, of course – plus the fact that, prior to 1900, most scientists were Christians. Look at Isaac Newton, Robert Boyle, Michael Faraday, Louis Pasteur.

    • Wraith Against RichOligarchy

      Quite simple, science is a tool that answers some of the questions that mankind has had. Still, science does not have all the answers, & yes, it is limited because men are
      limited as well. Plus, science cannot explain life or death. Science cannot explain good or evil. Science cannot offer values such as love, honor, honesty, warmth, patience, selflessness, so on, & so forth, all the human trades of
      the human spirit. Science is empirical, metallic, & impersonal, & those are just a few reasons why I am not an atheists. Science doesn’t answer all my questions, in a universe of vast possibilities. Mankind is not the center of
      the universe, & there is an entire universe out there.

    • Wraith Against RichOligarchy

      Nope…science doesn’t have all the answers…Science cannot explain life nor death; science cannot explain the true origins of mankind as a race, much less life on Earth. Science was created by men, & men are limited. Science is a tool to answer question that mankind as a race have, but it will always be incomplete because men is not infallible. There is a Supreme Power, & He is more real that all of us. Men on the other hand are limited. We all do have a beginning & eventually we all do have an end. Life is so complex to discard the possibility of a Supreme Creator. When men created science as tool to explain things, it was to find answers in the most improbable places, & look for possibilities in unlikely places as well. Atheists are most likely to be humanists as well. They think that humans are the center of the universe, which is a lie. I hope this answer helps a little bit to shed some light.

  • Arden Hale

    Joseph Stalin state enforced atheist kills 50 million people. Mao Zedong, atheist kills between 20 million and 60 million people. Atheists are way ahead.

  • Eric

    Are those boogers hanging out this clowns nose?

  • Arden Hale

    There is no such thing as white privilege. Beyond being a racist stance in itself it is demonstrably false. Race doesn’t matter. Whites have as many rights as any other group so get used to it. People are also allowed to be straight and do not need your permission to do so. Freedom of expression extends to all groups as well. This includes Christians. And they can express in public places. Incidentally separation of church and state does apply to any form of religious expression regardless of where it occurs. And your “separation of church” and state doesn’t appear anywhere in the Constitution.

    • Wraith Against RichOligarchy

      In theory, in practice people do fight over race, even in the U.S.
      All that controversy over a white Santa Claus…

      • Arden Hale

        It always helps however to remind liberals that conservative racism is a matter of their own imagination and that most of the current racism resides on the left wing side of the aisle.

        • Wraith Against RichOligarchy

          We need not to forget that this is still a struggle to grasp power. & sometimes the other side will use any means to force others to subdue. This is the reason why we do keep a system of checks & balances in this country, if this system fails, then this is no longer a democracy, it turns into another form of government, that’s the danger that all of us are facing right now, but some people are so blind to see what is transpiring.

  • Christina

    He already looked like satan! Scary.

    • derpollisauce

      You know what satan looks like? …scary.

      • Wraith Against RichOligarchy

        Just like me :)