Fox News host Megyn Kelly locked horns with Mikey Weinstein, the head of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, who filed a complaint over the phrase “so help me God” in the oath taken by Air Force Academy cadets.
Weinstein started the interview off on a bad foot by saying, “Well, it’s always great being here in ‘Fox world,’” implying that Fox News is somehow out of the mainstream.
When Kelly argued that cadets should simply be able to opt out of saying the phrase without making a big deal out of it, Weinstein countered that the phrase violates Clause 3 Article 6 of the Constitution, which provides:
The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.
When Weinstein began filibustering, Kelly brought him back on topic.
“You’re not answering my question,” she said. “Why can’t they just opt out?”
“Well, it’s like saying, Why don’t you just opt out of not robbing a bank?” Weinstein said. “Because robbing a bank violates the law.”
Kelly pointed out that presidents and federal employees repeat the same words when they take the oath of office. After some heated back and forth, Kelly told Weinstein, “Chill, it’s OK. I’m just asking the question.”
Weinstein shot back, “I’m in your universe here in Fox. Let me make it clear: You want to talk about presidents, Megyn? John Quincy Adams put his hand on a book of laws, not the Bible – a very devout Christian himself – because he loved the separation of church and state, which makes our country great.”
Things remained contentious to the very end, when Kelly bid goodbye to Weinstein by saying, “Thanks for coming here into Fox world
Watch the exchange from Fox News.