College grad’s viral letter: Obamacare ‘has raped my future’

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A heartbreaking, open letter, posted on Facebook, is going viral. It describes a young University of Michigan graduate’s experience that there is nothing “affordable” about the Affordable Care Act. She concludes that it has done little but rape her future.

Ashley Dionne, 26, posted her letter on conservative talk radio host Dennis Prager’s Facebook page, and it’s now being picked up by other media.

Although highly educated at a well-respected university, Dionne describes herself as a member of the “working poor.” She’s paid $8 an hour to work 32 hours a week at a gym. She was placed in that position by a failing economy, which Obamacare can only make worse.

Obamacare is forcing her out of a plan she favors and into one in which the premiums have more than quadrupled and with a massive deductible. Yet her own medical problems mean that going uninsured is not an option.

Here’s her letter:

My name is Ashley Dionne and I’m a 26-year-old recent graduate from Michigan.



The phony Obamacare signup poster boy made me want to send a message about how Obamacare is really affecting people.



I graduated from The University of Michigan in 2009. In my state, this used to mean something, but even with a bachelor’s I was told I was too educated and wouldn’t stay. I watched as kids with GEDs and high school diploma’s took the low-paying jobs for which I applied.



I went back to school and got a second degree and finally found work at a gym. I work nights and only get 32 hours a week for eight dollars an hour. I’m unable to find a second job at this time.



I have asthma, ulcers, and mild cerebral palsy. Obamacare takes my monthly rate from $75 a month for full coverage on my “Young Adult Plan,” to $319 a month. After $6,000 in deductibles, of course.



Liberals claimed this law would help the poor. I am the poor, the working poor, and I can’t afford to support myself, let alone older generations and people not willing to work at all.

This law has raped my future.

It will keep me and kids my age from having a future at all.



This is the real face of Obamacare and it isn’t pretty.

Liberals have yet to learn — there is no such thing as a free lunch.

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  • Rob

    and thousands more that we will never hear about. It’s a sad future for America when people are willing to trade everything an open free society offers for a $300 a month welfare check.

    • robbiedobbs

      Isn’t RAPE too strong of a word to be using. Isn’t it a little insensitive to people who actually were raped? Also this chick could afford two college degrees, but can’t afford health insurance? This is purely 100% political. Oh and she can get a job if she wants, she just might have to leave her comfort zone. I got a job in China in a few weeks, and I have one college degree.

      • Rob

        stay in China, you’ll fit right in with like minded tools.

        • robbiedobbs

          I’ve lived here for two years. These are PEOPLE, not tools. have some respect. And to be honest, life for me is way better here.

          • Rob

            I come from a communist country…nothing you can tell me I haven’t lived. They are tools and so are you. Stay there, hold the fort for the Mao revolution.

          • robbiedobbs

            Actually “communism” is just a word they use. It is not really communist here. They are basically a small group together that are dictators. America is the same. We say its a “democracy”, but when you only have the choice of 2 people for president, thats not a very big choice. How about 1000 choices, that would be better.

          • Rob

            I agree, this is not a democracy nor the Republican government it was design to be. Within the last 10 years we have moved to the left or totalitarian more than ever. I am a firm supporter of at least one more party other than the 2 we have and the innept communist party.

          • robbiedobbs

            again why just 1 more? how about 1000 more?

      • Guest

        Good luck in Chaina, and good riddance.

      • Mike Gonzalez

        Good luck in China…and good riddance!

      • Brittany

        Robbie dobbs ya mayne she did go to college but u have flexable payments unlike the obma care. And somep companies don’t give jobs if u r “over qualified” and going from 75 $ to 300 $ is a huge budget difference so stop acting like ur so supierior caz u got a job n china. Good for u, u probably grew up w a silver spoon in ur mouth and beilve the rich shoiod keep getting richer as the poor gets more poor

        • robbiedobbs

          what? hell no. screw the rich. i hate the 1%. but do you know which party is working the for the top 1%?

        • robbiedobbs

          anyone can get a job in china, all you need is a bachelors degree. so easy. if you want, i can help you

      • grllopez

        You have no idea how she paid for her college tuition. Maybe it was a loan, maybe she qualified for grants, or maybe a family member helped her. Nonetheless, who wants to work just to pay for dang health insurance? That’s not life!

        • robbiedobbs

          True. However, what is more important, health or college? It is sad that we live in a society where we must choose between one or the other. anyways, most of the world doesn’t have health insurance or access to quality care, so now we can understand their feelings. Which is good, cuz lets be honest, America is quite spoiled.

      • Karen Zarnowski

        So move there…get out !

  • krjfla

    Her story will be accompnied by millions of others, VERY SOON, if Obamacare is allowed to stay a law and a tax. Prohibition was a law many years ago. It hurt so many, created Speakeasys, crime and lawlessness with mobsters. It was REPEALED!

  • Jericho Cain

    I don’t follow this at all. She is still young enough to be on her parent’s healthcare, the PPACA doesn’t force you to switch plans (I didn’t), there is a built in mechanic into the PPACA that provides subsidies to people making as little as her to prevent this. She should be able to pay $0 or she is doing it wrong. My baloney detector is going crazy on this story.

    • Judith Lang

      She is 26, and probably her income does not qualify for subsidies.

      • Jericho Cain

        It absolutely does. She should only be paying $20 per month using the numbers she gave in her letter. Additionally, the insurance she was on prior was most likely the federally backed young adults plan through her school – her graduation is what killed it. She is refusing the subsidies from Obamacare because she doesn’t want to be a “mooch” (her words not mine) even though her former plan was subsidized with tax payer dollars.

        • Brandi Jo Miller

          Did you read what you wrote? HER GRADUATION KILLED IT. Are you kidding me? She is trying to make a better life for herself. My ‘clueless’ meter just went off.

          • Jericho Cain

            No. She had Young Adult insurance probably through her school. It is federally backed through tax dollars. I had it too. You lose it when you graduate. Also, she has already been shown that she qualifies for health insurance at less than she paid on her old plan. She was lying.

        • darcy922

          Her graduation is what killed it !! You just proved our point. So it’s better under this administration to just stay a moocher and take what the government wants you to have. This is exactly what’s wrong with this country today, people like you !

          • vjosborne

            no…you do like what all conservatives say to do…man up and go to work, earn more money to pay for your own healthcare and do not use ACA.

          • Detfan1

            Check your premise weasel!! Perhaps conservatives are losing their coverage from work because their employers can no longer afford it, or the penalty is more appealing. That is the punitive nature of this socialistic health care debacle, of which you, as a fine proud progressive are happy with. The more government the better, right? Soak the rich, right? Save the earth, right? What a dipstick you are your ilk are, and we see where our country now is heading with your style of “leadership” .

            But, to the conservative point, yes, conservatives believe in a work ethic and an independent spirit, and a generosity far superior to our oppresive government.

            Progressives like you don’t.

          • Jericho Cain

            So all of the sudden I am a progressive? All I did was point out that she lied in her letter. Think about what you are saying. Just because a supposed conservative says something, other conservatives can’t point out their errors? You don’t want a conservative party – you want a hive mind.

          • Cowabunga1000

            Bingo. Facts pop bubbles. As any good conservative knows, there can’t possibly be anything good about Obamacare for anybody, and don’t dare say anything else.

          • Jericho Cain

            You are severely misunderstanding. You can get health insurance at your college that covers you until 6 months after you graduate. Colleges have offered this for 20 years now. She is having problems finding work and she claims that her old insurance, a federally backed college plan that comes out of tax payers pockets, was cheaper than the new plan she can get through the PPACA. But she is lying. You can run her numbers and see that she can get coverage for about $20 per month.

      • Jerry Patte
    • Flint Minks

      It’s amazing how people decide it’s okay to continue making parents responsible for young adults , great way to teach someone how to be self reliant and responsible. But then, what would a society wanting everything easy and for free at others expense understand the real value of personal achievements, responsibility and accountability.

    • tweets2u

      what ir wrong with u how can so many people be so stupid

      • Jericho Cain

        Thanks but it has already came out that she was being intentionally misleading. She qualifies for various subsidies provided under Obamacare and should only pay as low as $20 per month. She is refusing those services, even though she initially left that out of her letter, because she doesn’t want to be a “mooch” (her words). However, her former plan was the federally backed Young Adults plan that is subsidized through tax payer money.

        • Detfan1

          Who pays for the subsidies, moron!! Is $17 trillion not enough for you?!

          • vjosborne

            17 trillion in subsidies or 17 trillion in total debt squandered on wars, lining pockets of corporations across the aisle, and other useless bullshite…

          • Detfan1

            Nope, the unsustainable deficit spending that is growing the $17 trillion deficit you el stupido!!

          • Jericho Cain

            It has been growing since the 80s. Lets not kid ourselves. Reagen, Bush I, Clinton, Bush II, and Obama are all liberal in the sense that they expanded government spending unnecessarily to benefit private enterprise. There hasn’t been a truly conservative president in a long time. In fact, Obama increased the spending rate by less than all of his predecessors since Reagen. Once you realize that the GOP, tea partiers, and the democrats are working for private interests you will be much better off.

          • Detfan1

            LMBO, you are such an idiot. You can’t even see that Obozo has dwarfed all other administrations in deficit spending, yet here you are, a stupid little idiot supporting this evil person that is occupying the White house, and the largest governmental bureaucracy ever–Obamacare!. I bet you think the stimulus dollars were helpful to our economy.Just amazing!!

          • Jericho Cain

            I completely agree with this – also I am a classical conservative at heart. However, my problem with the modern GOP is that the first place it wants to make cuts are to human services – damaging poor people. There are several other places we could start first.

          • Letthemeatcake

            Jericho thinks everything is for free and he is exhibiting that he really knows how to work the system.

          • Detfan1

            LOL, that IS obvious, isn’t it? Some folks have honor to sustain them. More and more have government. Very sad, indeed.

          • Jericho Cain

            I am not one of them. I make very good money. Again, if you detach yourself from the hive mind for a moment you will see that I am criticizing this college graduate because she is lying – not because she is conservative or is against the PPACA.

          • Jericho Cain

            You are making presumptions. Refute my points and drop the rhetoric.

          • Jericho Cain

            Personally insults are the last refuge of scoundrels.

          • Detfan1

            And you are a stupid idiot!

          • Jericho Cain

            I haven’t insulted you once. Why would I take you seriously when you behave like a child?

          • GetAClue

            It does not look like an insult, it looks more like an actuality! I think you have cranial rectal inversion.

          • Jericho Cain

            Your parents must think you are really cute when you use your big words.

          • Detfan1

            Where have I ever expected someone like a piece of crap like you to take me seriously!?! I am the total opposite of you. You are for a parasitic society, and I am for independent living within a limited government. Take your socialistic Obamacare cheer leading and shove it up your lower orifice….

          • Jericho Cain

            Conservatives – is this your guardian angel? A barely coherent bastion of irrationality who uses the tools available to him – that is to call everyone a “poo poo head”. I am done with this fool but I am sure he will wish to get one more insult in – that is all his small mind can conjure up when backed into a corner.

          • Detfan1

            Nope. Just you butthead. Guardian? LMBO!! You elevate me to no end! You delusional little pimp. Pushing your progressive crap everywhere you post and then making the feeble attempt to discredit me.l What a moron!!

          • Jericho Cain

            Paid for with a new tax on medical devices as well as mandate penalties, supposedly. However, that wasn’t my point. My point was that she was being intentionally misleading.

          • Detfan1

            No your point is that you are a loser progressive that loves Obamacare, which makes you an idiot. I’m laughing at your explanation for funding, and I stand on the $1.8 trillion expected in addition deficit spending to fund this monstrosity of a takeover of helthcare by the government. I believe the real number will be much much higher. Single payer is next, and I am sure you will just love that too!

          • Jericho Cain

            Personal insults are the last refuge of scoundrels. Please stay civil.

          • Detfan1

            You continue to misunderstand, moron. You take my post as a personal insult, when they are actual descriptions of the content of your posts, and the subsequent description of the type of poster you are. Sorry you seem to offen so easily, but that is expected from loser progressive Obamacare lapdogs!

          • Jericho Cain

            I don’t “offend” easily. I just would prefer a calm rational discourse rather than the vehement rhetoric that you keep spitting out of your mouth. Address facts, give facts, and be civil or anyone who matters will treat you like the child that you are behaving like.

          • Detfan1

            I really don’t give a crap what you prefer parasite. You are a feeble progressive and as such, I have no use for you.

    • PhylBoyse

      She is now 26 and therefore within a few months will be coming OFF her parents plan. Don’t you know how to read???????

      • Jericho Cain

        Sorry I wasn’t clear. Also, no need for hostility. Obama care allows you to stay on your parents plan until you are 26. The Young Adult plan, her former plan, also has an age limit (probably 26 or when you graduate). It is federally backed insurance for college students that ends 6 months after you graduate. I had it. The PPACA did not force off that plan. She graduated. Also, she is refusing the subsidies that she is allowed under Obamacare due to her income. Her letter was intentionally misleading.

        • Angela

          What bout me? I’m a 45 single mom and I can’t afford it. I live form check to check like a lot of people these days. I make just enough to not be able to qualify for help. My monthly payments will be 300+ depending the plan I choose, with high deductibles and co pays. I do qualify for tax break but still looking at 300. What am I to do? I still won’t be able to go to the doctor and will be living in the streets or something cause I want be able to pay my rent. Tell me Jericho, WHAT DO I DO?

          • Jericho Cain

            What is your hourly wage? How many hours do you work? How many dependents do you have? Are you listed as a dependent. Lets see the math.

          • darcy922

            And you’re the expert here on the Affordable Healthcare Act. ? I really hope that you know more then the people who wrote it and set it up…because up to this point everything that has been told to us by this president has been fabricated.

          • Jericho Cain

            Absolutely not. However, I do know how to mosey on over to an online insurance calculator provided on the PPACA website and enter in her numbers. It takes 10 seconds to get an estimate. Again, this college grad has admitted to lying. She refused the subsidies provided by Obamacare, claiming it would make her a “mooch” but left that out of her letter. Even though her former insurance was a federally backed plan that comes out of our taxes.

          • Lynne Smith

            Are you saying your make what more than 45 thousand…that is the high end of where the subsidies stop for one person.

          • Jericho Cain

            I am sorry, I am not sure what you are saying here – I think there is a typo. Are you asking whether or not I make more that 45k? If someone is making 45K and they only have themselves as a dependent, shouldn’t the subsidies stop? The college grad was making $8 per hour and working 32 hours per week. Nowhere near 45K.

          • robbiedobbs

            Tell your company to provide you with health insurance. Tell your companies boss to stop being so selfish and share just a little of his/her salary to help you get insurance.

        • Trudy Hand

          Jericho, sooner or later all the federal handouts will stop ,then it all comes to an end. This country will be flat broke and sink into a ditch. Who do think will carry it then? People have to have jobs and getting more than 25 and 30 hrs a week. Price index rises and people can not afford all that is expected of them. If the interest rates rise it will be even worst. I recall in the 1980′s it was 12%.More than double what it is now.

          • Jericho Cain

            I am not in favor of Obamacare. You all misunderstand me. My point was that this college grad is being intentionally misleading. The numbers she gives in her letter have been SHOWN to provide her with monthly payments around $21.

      • Sloppy Joe

        Don’t respond to this troll, ignore him.

        • Jericho Cain

          How am I a troll? Where have I been rude or irrational to illicit a response? You can’t just call me a troll to sweep away civil discussion.

          • Cowabunga1000

            Alas, Jericho, they can. Facts get in the way of a good conservative rant: ideology uber alles.

    • TLN

      You are covered until 26, so on your 26th BD you are done

      • Jericho Cain

        Right. And according to the numbers she gave she qualifies for a cheaper plan through provisions provided by Obamacare. She was intentionally misleading in her letter. Additionally, it wasn’t the PPACA that forced her off her college insurance. She graduated – it only lasts until you graduate. I had a similar plan.

        • Detfan1

          So the government gets to print even more money ruining EVERYBOdY”S future so she can have cheap insurance. That is just great!! Pull the plug on it, so our country can rebuild its economy.

          • vjosborne

            This is a drop in the bucket compared to what has to happen to fix the economy.

          • Detfan1

            I wouldn’t call $1.8 trillion a drop in the bucket.

        • vjosborne

          people refuse to do their homework and kvetch about how bad ACA is…or they just get on the bandwagon and parrot everything they have heard.

          • Letthemeatcake

            yeah, just like the ACA proponents do.

          • Jericho Cain

            As a staunch independent I would argue that both sides of this debate do this. However, as of late, the tea party followers do this to an absurd, almost comical, degree.

    • darcy922

      She is 26 so she will be on her own. It’s the same story where she makes too much to qualify for help. Or it could be a pay back story for the 23 year old that lied about getting himself and his father on Obamacare and got it at such a deal. They checked that story out and the boy lied, it was a set up by the Obama and his administration.

      • Jericho Cain

        She doesn’t. She makes $8 per hour and 32 hours per week. She qualifies for a cheaper plan that she was on. The young middle class are the people who will suffer from this law.

    • Dianne Anthony

      My daughyter was on our family insurance plan during her college years, until the age of 25, then she had to have her own plan & she was still living in our home. Also with pre existing conditions any insurance is higher. We are reading every day where premiums are so high people are not taking it. Get real and see it for what it is – a catastrophe for the American people.

    • Letthemeatcake

      Maybe her parents do not have a plan. You are making a lot of assumptions that are baloney.

      • Jericho Cain

        That is possible. However, if you use the PPACA calculator with her numbers you will see that she qualifies for subsidies. She has admitted that she does and she turned them down because she thinks that it makes her a “mooch”. By leaving out these details from her letter she is being intentionally misleading.

  • Sandra Werner

    Here is what else you can expect. I received a letter from the insurance company regarding my daughters non invasive ventilator, humidifier and heated tubing. The heated tubing alone is over $1,000 and the ventilator and humidifier are thousands more. A year ago the insurance company said it was approved and paid for and now they sent me a letter stating that even though you get an approval doesn’t mean it is paid for and they sent us an auto-denial letter over a year later. Well just let them try to come here and take it back because they will have a fight on their hands because my daughter quits breathing an average of 93 times per hour!!!!!!!!

    • Lynne Smith

      Jimminy Christmas…do you folks not realize that the insurance companies are going to lose money because ACA makes the insurance company use 85% of the premiums on actual health care. They are working hard to frighten people. Guess what folks I have a pre-existing illness. I already have the silver plan, have had it for 2 years. It is great insurance and Sandra you are wrong. I was so ill at the time I got this insurance, I had to have 24 hour oxygen. I had surgery in Dec. Guess what the doctors could hardly believe how great my insurance was. So don’t come in here and say things you can’t back up.

      • aliswell

        Kid, we KNOW you have a pre-existing illness. It’s called liberalism. The Unaffordable Care Act won’t help.

  • tweets2u

    oh just leave the term president out.

  • bsilano

    My daughters in the boat she graduated from Penn State 2010 with 2 degrees and 1 minor did five internships non payed of course for very impressive companies. She works as a waitress.

    • Jericho Cain

      What were her degrees in?

    • Lynne Smith

      She should qualify then. It is a simple process to get on.

      • vjosborne

        my wife and I looked into the ACA Covered CA out here in California. No issues with website, looked into other states, no issues with their websites either. There is a whole lot of bullshite being pedaled and people who are narrow thinkers drink it up like the Flavor-Aid they believe liberals drink.

        • Detfan1

          I looked it up too, and if I signed up, my premium would go up 4 fold, with much higher deductible, plus a much lower co-pay. It remains to be seen whether I can keep what I have(and what its futher premiums will be), but I will leave the country, if I am forced to change my coverage. This country has lost its moral compass. ACA is BS, and MUST be repealed.

          • Jericho Cain

            Please show us the math. What was your former plan. What are your financial details so we can see what you mean with the calculator.

          • Detfan1

            Man you are el stupido!! I don’t have a previous plan. I have my current plan. The simple math is that moving to a government plan will cost me between 379% to 512% and will give me a higher deductible and lower percent of co-pay. Thank God I”m not even close to earning that fantastic government subsidy you are so proud of talking about! Save your calculator you idiot.

          • Jericho Cain

            Sigh. No I meant how much do you make per year, how many dependents do you have, what are your preexisting conditions, and what is your current insurance plan and payments. Then I can punch it in the calculator and verify what you are saying. With facts I can reevaluate my positions. For now I am just getting hearsay and rhetoric. Also, from you mainly, I am getting amusing kindergarten banter.

          • robbiedobbs

            you will leave the country. GREAT !!!!!!! GTFO

    • robbiedobbs

      not the governments fault. It is the cause of overpopulation, increases in technology which eliminate jobs, and the greedy corporations which continue to outsource.

  • http://www.facebook.com/glenda.jolley.5 Glenda Jolley

    Such a sad predicament for this young lady and others when it could easily be remedied by government letting private businesses operate without interference. So sad!

    • Jericho Cain

      It ran rampant without government interference for years. Profit motivation is not always in the best interest of the public. You know what other company thrived under a heavily unregulated market? The East India Company.

    • Ron Dancingron Schuhs

      Lets go back to 1895 and the “Robber Barons” as the way to rule the country….Not

  • PhylBoyse

    God Bless this young lady – Ashley Dionne, and all those like her. My children are working – but are struggling because of low wages for medical work – which everyone says pays good. Oh yea, well tell me where so they can move there go get better wages. My son works for a large corporation, and his wife also works for a large corporation at menial wages and trying to raise children. This moron in the white house has no idea of what he is doing – but he knows he wants total control because those communist and socialists that are controlling him want this country to be brought down. But barry is too stupid to realize that he is sending his own kids down the same road as most other Americans. They won’t be able to live with “daddy and mommy” forever. he will HAVE to BUY them husbands if they want to get married, because no man in his right mind is going to marry them because of who they are related to – because once out of office he will not be able to pull strings to help the men that MIGHT marry them.

    • Letthemeatcake

      Are you kidding? Obama’s daughters are set for life. Obama has been selling this country out to multinational corporations for years. Who do you think installed him? All these Obama glorifiers are a joke. The handwriting was on the wall when Obama was campaigning for his first term and ran down to DC to vote for the Bush bailouts. Obama was chosen for this role. Obama, in his first term, appointed his Monsanto and Dupont cronies to top positions in the FDA and USDA. He sent Kerry to the Transpacific Partnership talks where Monsanto is and believe me the last nails on the coffin for the working people are almost hammered in…

      • Jericho Cain

        I could only read the first sentence. Almost every politician is a millionaire many times over. And yet we keep thinking that they represent our interests.

  • Lynne Smith

    This is a bald face lie. At 8 dollars an hour…at about 1500 hours per year her income is $16400.00 approximately. There is NO way she would pay this much for insurance. Why do people keep putting these lies on line? Here is the information she needs. For example, you could enroll in a Bronze plan for about $0 per year (which is 0% of your household income). By enrolling in a Bronze plan, you would receive $2,397 in subsidies, which would cover the entire amount of your Bronze premium. For most people, the Bronze plan represents the minimum level of coverage required under health reform. Although you would pay less in premiums by enrolling in a Bronze plan, you will face higher out-of-pocket costs than if you enrolled in a Silver plan.

    Out of Pocket Costs

    Your out-of-pocket maximum for a Silver plan (not including the premium) can be no more than $2,250. Whether you reach this maximum level will depend on the amount of health care services you use. Currently, about one in four people use no health care services in any given year.

    You are guaranteed access to a Silver plan with an actuarial value of 94%. This means that for all enrollees in a typical population, the plan will pay for 94% of expenses in total for covered benefits, with enrollees responsible for the rest. If you choose to enroll in a Bronze plan, the actuarial value will be 60%, meaning your out-of-pocket costs when you use services will likely be higher. Regardless of which level of coverage you choose, deductibles and copayments will vary from plan to plan, and out-of-pocket costs will depend on your health care expenses. Preventive services will be covered with no cost sharing required.

    This is based on the information she gave. Now, if she truly doesn’t know, then she should be happy. If this is another conservative simply lying or manipulating the truth…that is a whole nother matter.

    • Detfan1

      Once again, I get to pay(well, actually government IOU’s get to pay for all these subsidies) for all these subsidies. Why is everyone posting about subsidies like they are great? It is BS, and our country is going to collapse under its own weight.

      • Jericho Cain

        You own a medical device company? If so it is really hard for me to sympathize with you because you are probably a multimillionaire. I doubt you will even feel that 2.3% tax on new medical devices that you sell or import.

        • Detfan1

          What a idiot. You have got a lot of nerve trying to tell me what I do for a living you piece of crap!! Face it, you love the subsidies, that will be paid by the taxpayers, you love a centralized government, and you are making your self look bad with every post trying to justify Obamacare.

          • Jericho Cain

            yawn.

          • Detfan1

            Exactly!! LOL

      • Jericho Cain

        Also, if it is paid for by a new tax on medical devices and cuts Medicare by 500 billion – how exactly does it contribute to the national debt?

        • Detfan1

          Latest estimate is $1.8 trillion deficit. I expect it to go much higher, because all governmental programs do. Please don’t be so stupid to think that new funding streams will fund this governmental monstrosity. Please get better informed.

    • Thomas Pearson

      Who is paying for the subsidies?

      Boom goes your argument.

      • Jericho Cain

        A new tax on medical devices as well as mandate penalties. Not you.

        • GUalbanian

          And with that new tax – money for medical device innovation dries up, devices become more expensive and less available.

          • Jericho Cain

            You really think a 2.3% tax on the sale price and imports of taxable medical devices will bankrupt a multibillion dollar industry? If so, may I please see the math?

          • GUalbanian

            I’m not saying bankrupt, but know that sales and supplies will be slowed and the users of those devices may not be getting them as much as they need them. In case you didn’t know it costs a lot of money to research new patents and the feds are always breathing down your neck with regulations and now more taxes.

          • Jericho Cain

            The profit they make currently is astronomical. They will not be phased. If they are someone will come along and replace them.

          • GUalbanian

            Really? And according to you what’s astronomical? Maybe the government should define what’s astronomical. Again – I’m not saying with certainty that the companies will go bankrupt – just that things might slow down due to the next tax increase so that that next new device in development that might help those of us in need may be long in coming…The 2.3% tax will only increase as more subsidies are needed.

          • Ron Dancingron Schuhs

            Good Answer! Most business owners (I have owned 3) don’t give a rip about tax rates as a factor in starting a business

          • Joe

            Wrong. I am looking to move my business because of taxes, preferably overseas because you liberal pigs want to take 50% of my hard earned money and give it to irresponsible leeches.

    • GUalbanian

      Good for you. You got the government and the American people to subsidize your health care and for now there’s not much competition for services. It’s really magnanimous of the federal government to provide premium assistance to reduce your monthly payment especially if you are a big consumer of health care services. With a failing economy I don’t know how our government can be so generous.

      • Ron Dancingron Schuhs

        and just throwing gas on the fire by the Republicans is good government? Do you understand how insurance works….It is cheaper with more people buying it….but if all people in the insured group are equally injured…the insurance companies fail….AKA Florida and Hurricane Andrew….and if no one will insure you….we as a people will….it is called “Go to the Emergency Room”….lie on the floor and wave your arms and kick your legs and scream….I told hundreds of people to do just that when Blue Cross & Blue Shield of Florida declined to insure them….do your homework before posting and check your facts….any good reporter knows this….peace

        • GUalbanian

          The government should subsidize those who need it and it does more and more even though it can’t pay it’s debts. But this is really cheating those who subscribe individually to mandate that they pay much higher premiums and deductibles to satisfy ‘essential health benefits’ if they don’t need them in an insurance plan. The government is including too many services that don’t seem necessary.

    • Jericho Cain

      Notice that your detractors below are not refuting your point that the “college grad” in question was lying in her letter. Instead they shift the goal posts to criticize Obamacare instead of addressing the fact that one of the members of their hive mind possibly lied.

    • Ron Dancingron Schuhs

      Great answer Lynne…see my post Ron Dancingron Schuhs

  • darcy922

    This is a common story these days. I have a grand daughter who will finish four years of college this coming June. And she is sunk in debt from pay back college loans. She is certainly worried about her future and if there is any future out there for her. I feel sorry for all these kids when their future is in the hands of an out of control government who is spending their future by sinking them in debt..
    Its sad that our kids and grand kids that will pay the ultimate price.

    • Jericho Cain

      As long as you keep electing democrats and republicans the debt will soar. Obama has actually increased the spending rate less than all of the presidents before him up until Reagan. The GOP has tricked you into thinking that it serves different bosses than the democrats.