Bikers organize massive counter protest to Million Muslim March

Thousands of America’s patriotic bikers are organizing an enormous counter protest to the planned Million Muslim March on DC this Sept. 11.

The Facebook Page, “2 Million Bikers to DC,” has over 18 thousand “likes,” as of Thursday morning and individual state chapters of riders have launched pages on Facebook, as well.

The bikers are riding “To remember those who were killed on 911 and honor our armed forces who fought those who precipitated this attack,” the Facebook page said.

The American Muslim Political Action Committee organized the Million Muslim March to DC on the twelfth anniversary of the terrorist attack this country on Sept. 11, but has given the event a less inflammatory name, the “Million American March Against Fear,” to raise awareness of the anti-Islamic sentiment against Muslim Americans.

According to the organizers of the “2 Million Bikers to DC,” this counter protest to the Million Muslim March was planned for the purposes of:

WE, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, WILL STAND BY OUR CONSTITUTION (AS WRITTEN, NOT AS INTERPRETED BY THE THIS OR ANY PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION), WE WILL STAND BY OUR BILL OF RIGHTS (AS WRITTEN) AND WE STAND FOR AMERICA!

THIS EVENT IS TO OUR HONOR AND RESPECT THOSE WHO WERE KILLED ON 9/11 AND THEIR FAMILIES! IT IS ALSO IN REMEMBRANCE OF THOSE IN ALL OUR ARMED FORCES WHO FOUGHT THOSE WHO PRECIPITATED THIS ATTACK!

WE STAND AGAINST ANY “FUNDAMENTAL TRANSFORMATION OF AMERICA” BY THIS ADMINISTRATION OR ANY PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION!

WE WILL NOT STAND DOWN WE WILL STAND UP IF NEED BE FOR OUR LIBERTIES. ** THIS IS A PEACEFUL “RIDE”. WE ARE NOT PROMOTING NOR DO WE CONDONE VIOLENCE OF ANY KIND! WE ARE RIDING TO SHOW OUR LOVE OF AMERICA AND THE SHINING EXAMPLE OF FEEEDOM THIS COUNTRY PROVIDES TO THE WORLD!**

Visit “2 Million Bikers to DC” Facebook Page.

Visit “2 Million Bikers to DC FL” Facebook Page.

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Janeen Capizola

"And though she be but little, she is fierce." And fun! This conservative-minded political junkie, mom of three, dancer and one-time NFL cheerleader holds a bachelor of arts degree in political science. Janeen@BizPacReview.com. Twitter: @JaneenBPR
About Janeen Capizola

"And though she be but little, she is fierce." And fun! This conservative-minded political junkie, mom of three, dancer and one-time NFL cheerleader holds a bachelor of arts degree in political science. Janeen@BizPacReview.com. Twitter: @JaneenBPR

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    • KnowI’mLucky

      Just jump on your bike and join the ride. It will be as peaceful as it
      can be. Don’t let these idealists cloud the issue. This is about
      HONORING and REMEMBERING the fallen and their families and all of those
      touched on that fateful day. The attacks on September 11, 2001will go
      down in history as one of the most cowardly acts ever committed. Akin
      to stabbing you in the back. Now they want to march on Washington,
      which would be fine with me as an American who understands it’s values.
      Just not on this day. Who among you thinks this is not grave walking.
      Join the ride, thwart the effort.

      • CitizenQuasar

        Here are the intentions you are going to “thwart:”

        http://mamaf.webs.com/

        • Bill Moss

          Lying Muslim Loving POS. There is nothing in the Muslim Religon that is peaceful, pedal that crab somewhere else. There is no intent to do anything peaceful. You are all murders as is evidenced by you violent attacks on peaceful people. I hope you start something in D.C. and get your just dues. Nearly three thousand Americans died on 9/11/01 and I hope every one of you join them soon. I just hope before someone beheads you like you want to behead us they cram your mouth full of bacon!

          • CitizenQuasar

            “Lying Muslim Loving POS. There is nothing in the Muslim Religon that is peaceful, pedal that crab somewhere else. There is no intent to do anything peaceful. You are all murders as is evidenced by you violent attacks on peaceful people.”

            I am NOT a Muslim. I am an Objectivist.

            However, I can swear from personal experience that I know many good Muslims. I can also state from personal experience that there are a billion good Muslims that are also, at the very least, average people. Then there are a few, maybe even numbering in the thousands, that are kooks.
            Yet the problem with this kookery, as put forth not only in the works of Ayn Rand such as “Atlas Shrugged” but also in books like “The End of Faith” by Sam Harris, is faith itself and the superstition known as Christianity is based on faith just as much as Islam is. “Faith” designates blind acceptance of a certain ideational content, acceptance induced by feeling in the absence of evidence or proof.

            When somebody claims something is true based on faith, their only argument is the initiation of physical force and this is the very definition of a violation of a right. So I view Islam in the same light as Christianity. Christianity has a millenniums long history of blood and savagery and torture and death but Christians refuse to see it. Just look at the Puritans in Colonial America.

            “I hope you start something in D.C. and get your just dues.”
            I am NOT a Muslim. I am an Objectivist. I will NOT be attending the march.
            Here you are trying to scare me away from the American “March Against FEAR,” so aren’t you just quite the (ignorant redneck) dandy. I’ll bet you’re a card carrying member of the Ku Klux Klan.

            “ Nearly three thousand Americans died on 9/11/01”
            Yes they did. And if you think 19 whacked out Muslims with box cutters hijacked 4 American airlines and flew them through American airspace for several hours without being intercepted by the USAF and they were led by a man on kidney dialysis with a laptop computer in a cave in Afghanistan and they successfully attacked the Pentagon and brought down the World Trade Centers with kerosene based jet fuel then you are severely mis-informed.

            [It is also worth noting that even if this lunatic conspiracy theory that was sold to the Amerikan public, which is turning out to be in some kind of dumber-than-dirt hypnotic state, was true, then you would be the biggest of hypocrites to hold one billion other Muslims responsible for the actions of these few.]

            The World Trade Centers were turned to dust by an electromagnetic molecular disruptor weapon.

            SOURCE: http://www.drjudywood.com/

            The Pentagon wasn’t even struck.

            SOURCE: http://www.citizeninvestigationteam.com/nsa.html

            Just as the Jews were used by Hitler as a scapegoat for taking over Germany, so the Muslims are being used a scapegoats by the criminal government of the United States to militarily take over America.
            Those who don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Here is a little history:

            “Why of course the people don’t want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don’t want war neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”

            —Hermann Goering on April 18, 1946 at the Nuremberg trials.

            “and I hope every one of you join them soon. I just hope before someone beheads you”

            Spoken with true Christian love.

            You need to get your information from a different source.
            Try these:
            1 http://www.infowars.com/
            2 http://blacklistednews.com/
            3 http://www.themicroeffect.com/ (Mark Koernke, 7am CST -9am CST)
            4 http://whatreallyhappened.com/ (videocast 1pm CST -4 pm CST on Bambuser TV

            I can lead a horse to water but I can’t make it drink.

            “…they cram your mouth full of bacon!”
            I really do like bacon. I cram my mouth full of it almost every morning! I like pork chops to. I do NOT like ham though.

          • Bill Moss

            If you love the Muslims and hate Christianity I suggest you leave the country now and go live with these peaceful Muslims that are beheading peaceful Christians. The times are changing and the Christians are gathering now to take this country back and it will not be safe to be a Muslim or a Muslim lover any longer. Go now while you have your chance the Christians are going to drive out the Muslim pervert, child raping, wife beating Jihad loving bunch of you. Remember4 when you cry Jihad you call for Holy War and the Christians have fought Holy wars for 1,000′s of years and won. Longt live the King Jesus for his tomb remains empty and that is more than any other diety in history can cclaim.

          • Becci Himes

            Bill, I’m sure King Jesus is so proud of the hate and intolerance coming out of your mouth. I remember the part of the Bible where Jesus says go forth a spew venom upon your enemies. Oh, wait, no,that’s not it. 43″You have heard that it was said, ‘YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR and hate your enemy.’ 44″But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.…Matthew 5: 43-45. Don’t bring Jesus into your warped sense of religion. He won’t like it.

          • Randy McDaniels

            Jesus also displayed righteous anger and overturned the money lenders and merchants tables in the temple and beat and drove them off with a whip.

            To many Christians today are too timid which is why we are losing SOULS and ground to the enemy everyday.

            Satan is a liar, a thief, and a murderer…right.

            The Bride of Christ is the Church…. and if Satan tries to emulate Christ… and had to choose a bride….who would he choose?

            Hindu? Zoroatrians? Christians (taken), Jews (taken), Buddist? or Muslims whose holy Quran teach Muslims to lie to keep peace in the home, in the tribe, or Ummah, and to deceive non-Muslims, to Steal from Non-Muslims, and to kill non-Muslims, Apostates (enemies of the state meaning Islam is really a political system..but I digress).

            I may not agree with the language…but he fact is I think JESUS will be much more upset with his CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS who are not Marching as to War to confront the evil and dark spiritual war being waged. Instead, you capitulate with the enemy in the name of Christ…HOW PERVERSE.

            We are to love our enemies yes…but be firm and oppose their evil ways, and correct those who brothers who are not doing the lords work, as well as offend those evil ones with the truth.

            Sorry. but you are part of the problem.

          • Bill Moss

            God has sent his people in to battle several times. He will also send the likes of you to hell for trying to twist his words. Before you preach to someone make sure that is not someone who has studied Gods word in Seminary and become a pastor. Like Rand said below Jesus drove the money changers from the temple with a cat and nine rails. Jesus also said what you do unto these, meaning the little children, you do unto me. The muslims are child rapers and you share in their guilt by defending them. You spot in the lake of fire is reserved. So burn liberal burn.

          • wendorms

            Hey rag head, how do you type wearing a straight jacket?

          • CitizenQuasar

            1. Your final argument is an insult? Grow up.

            2. The Muslims are NOT the enemy of America, the criminal group that has taken over the United States government is. Since people keep electing them instead of arresting them, it is those people who do America harm; people like you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kB2lh6N0m4w

            3. Nukes have been unlawfully moved from Dyess AFB to Charleston, S.C. and now Lindsay Graham (S.C. Senator) says Muslims are going to nuke South Carolina. So if S.C. is nuked, know it was the United States government that set off the nuke just like it was the United States government that set off the chemical gas attack in Syria.

            4. 9/11/13 is coming up. Let’s see what happens.

          • James Raulerson

            fucking conspiracy theorist, and racist ass slime claiming to be Christians. yall’s dumb asses are whats wrong with this country,

          • CitizenQuasar

            I have NEVER claimed to be a Christian. My roommate is a different race from me. I am white an he is black.

            Now that nothing happened in Washington D.C., now that your civil war did NOT start, you get on the internet and try to stir things up.

            R U being paid OR do you just have an arrangement with your Federal probation officer?

          • Bill Moss

            racist

        • Bill Moss

          Here is your peaceful Muslim religon a quote from the QURAN :http://godofreason.com/user/cimage/Doc11.jpg

          • CitizenQuasar

            This is EXACTLY what Christians do when they tell me I am going to spend eternity being tortured (in the name of “love” of course) for NOT believing in Jesus.

            Our Founding Fathers agreed with me. Here is what Thomas Paine, General George Washington’s Speech writer had to say about it:

            “Of all the tyrannies that affect mankind, religion is the worst; every other species of tyranny is limited to the world we live in; but this attempts to stride beyond the grave, and seeks to pursue us into eternity.”
            —Thomas Paine

          • CitizenQuasar

            PS
            The leaders of the biker rally should contact the leaders of the American March Against Freedom and communicate directly with them, voicing their concerns and making sure that their information is correct.

            As it is now, people like you, Bill Moss, seek only to foment strife and conflict and you continue in your hypocrisy that Muslims, 1,000,000,000+ people, are natural enemies of America.

            It is people like you, sir, who are the enemies of peace and the enemies of understanding, and who do NOT seek truth but who always lie.

          • Paul F.

            Here’s your peaceful christian religion:

            Deuteronomy 13:6-10

            New International Version (NIV)

            6 If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods that neither you nor your ancestors have known, 7 gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), 8 do not yield to them or listen to them. Show them no pity. Do not spare them or shield them. 9 You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people. 10 Stone them to death, because they tried to turn you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.

          • James Raulerson

            all religions are BS

      • Mary

        SURE it will be peaceful

        • nicknirm

          Even one camel wanker is better than a million Muslims. You want to save the Muslims. Fool!

          • CitizenQuasar

            First of all, the march is NOT about Musims but is is the American March Against Fear. Either you are a government agitator Iot you are some kind of dimwit because it is exactly like the web link above says.

            “You want to save the Muslims.”

            You want to spread lies and hate. In WWII it was the Jews that were the scapegoat of the Nazis as they took over. Today it is the Muslims that are the scapegoat of the Federal government as it takes over America and turns it into a living Hell tyranny worse than Nazi Germany. Fool.

            “SURE it will be peaceful”

            The historical record is that the United States government sneaks agents provocateurs into groups like this. They will be secretly armed and if there is a confrontation then they will shoot a biker.

            Although bikers are generally dumb enough to NOT realize what is going on (after all they are intentionally disturbing an AMERICAN March), I am sure the government will have agents provocateurs among the bikers to make sure that someone shoots back.

            Then there will be an exchange of violence which the government will make as big as it can. If the government is able, it will parlay this into a civil war and if NOT able then the government will at least put our nation’s capital under paramilitary rule and curfew indefinitely just like it did Boston recently and New Orleans after Katrina.

            “Even one camel wanker is better than a million Muslims. You want to save the Muslims.”

            Americans DON’T kill Americans! Or do they?

          • Bill Moss

            is the same people that started it off as A Million Muslim March and they Changed the Name so the could hood wink a bunch of Dumb F*cks into marching with them when they found out they were going to be out numbered they changed the name. You are one of the Dumb F*cks they hood winked you are too F*cking Dumb to see that you are drawn in by some stupid F*cking Muslims. Therefore we get to entertain ourselves with you showing us your stupidity you Dumb F*ck. CitizenQuazar, what kind of name is that? It is the kind of name you use when 1) you are afraid of standing up for what you believe so you hide behind a fake name. 2) You defend the very people that want to distroy your country 3) You hide behind a stupid name because you are not man enough to Use your own name because you are afraid of being made to back up what you say.
            So keep spouting your rehetoric all you want we are enjoying your ignorance to the inth degree. When we are board the patriots on this page will do or say something to piss you off like I am doing now and we will all have you to laugh at for a while. So go on CitizenQuazar hide behind your fake name with your fake March against fear (Million Muslim March) and we will laugh at your pathetic miserable existance. I hope you like bacon cause I here the bikers are going to feed it to all you Muslims and Muslim lovers. I do hope you like it rare. You see my friend there are real people who are not afraid to show our name on picture, Like me for example. Hell my pitcture isn’t even a distortied image like on your picture. That is how real men roll. Have fun in Washington I hope you March goes as planned. And I hope you all enjoy your bacon.

          • CitizenQuasar

            I didn’t read this. But I saw the last line and I DO enjoy bacon. Now I am beginning to suspect that you are just a piece of software.

          • Becci Himes

            I’m pretty sure Jesus is not down with the “F” word, either.

          • Sarine

            Bill, I just have to say that if you are truly a Christian, you are very poor example in the way you are representing yourself. a true christian would really listen to what CitizenQuazar was saying. He has very good insights and has said multiple times he is not Muslim any more than he is Christian. He is aware and educated and we “Christians” and “patriots” would be wise to listen and truly read what he is trying to tell us and expose.

          • Bill Moss

            I loved it over a million hogs and only eleven Muslim protestors and ten organizers. Shows who is serious about this and who is yellow. Muslims only attack when they have the enemy outnumbered. Too darn afraid to even show. Cowards.

  • krackerhac

    I think there will be more motorcycles than camels.

    • Mary

      AND more wankers than Muslims

    • CitizenQuasar

      Since it is the American March Against Fear, there surely will be more motorcycles than camels. That the bikers intend to disrupt this march and they will pretend they are somehow advancing the cause of freedom just shows how stupid they are.

      • Scott Cooper

        Us bikers are REAL AMERICANS that dont back down from anybody for any reason!!! that being said….pick a different day for your lame ass march. 9-11 is our day!!! you people attacked us!! DO NOT try to get in the way of our fallen Americans, soldiers, firefighters, policemen, or anyone else who was hurt that day!!! my fellow brothers and sisters that ride will see to it you will not interfere with OUR day!! peacefully of course

        • CitizenQuasar

          “Us bikers are REAL AMERICANS that dont back down from anybody for any reason!!! “

          If ever a biker does fly, they will let the TSA grab their penis and give it a good squeeze and then they will stand by
          while the (male) TSA agent feels his
          wife’s crotch and then he will stand idly by while the same TSA agent takes his
          little boy and his little girl in the other room and strip searches them. I have personally see bikers wearing colors cower in fear when police entered a
          bar an arrested me for invoking my Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights. At
          another bar I had two drunken bikers wearing colors attack me for no reason and I whipped both of their asses.

          The way I see it, bikers, the so called
          “tough” ones, are only tough when they outnumber their opponent three to one or when they attack from behind like cowards. Bikers are the dumbest of the lot.

          “that being said….pick a different
          day for your lame ass march.”

          It is the FALSE FLAG attacks on 9/11 that the CRIMINAL UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT uses to evoke fear into the American people so 9/11 is the fitting day for the “American March Against Fear.”

          “9-11 is our day!!!”

          Who’s day? The bikers’ day? You sound
          like a government agent provocateur yourself. Are YOU going to start trouble
          that day harassing and jeering at Americans of ALL RACES AND RELIGIONS conducting a peaceful march against…fear?

          “you people attacked us!!”

          Either you ARE a government provocateur or you are a complete tard and a good example of a stupid biker because I keep telling you people that I am an Objectivist and NOT a Muslim and yet you keep addressing me in the second person (Do you even know what that is?)as if I am.

          “DO NOT try to get in the way of our fallen Americans, soldiers, firefighters,
          policemen, or anyone else who was hurt that day!!!”

          There will likely be many of these walking in the “American March Against Fear” and this is a lawfully permitted parade so who is going to get in who’s way?

          “my fellow brothers and sisters that ride will see to it you will not interfere
          with OUR day!! peacefully of course”

          The American March Against Freedom is a lawfully permitted march so who is going to interfere with whom?

          Here is what is going on on 9/11/13:

          The CRIMINAL GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES wants to stir up conflict and start a civil war in the United States so they will have an excuse to directly attack the American people with their own military and police…and any foreigners they can get from the UN…and lock Americans in their
          houses with soldiers on the street like they did in Katrina and during the
          FALSE FLAG manhunt in Boston.

          They are hoping they can mis-portray
          the “Million American March Against Fear” as a “Million Muslim March.” (Never mind the fact that there were NO Muslims involved in 9/11…and even if there were then they would only be 19 and 19 misbehaving individuals is hardly a reason to attack over 1,000,000,000 other people.) Then they are hoping a bunch of bikers, outside of local police perhaps the stupidest and most easily manipulated group in the United States
          today, to attack the lawfully permitted parade.

          And to make SURE a shoot’em up conflict occurs, government rovocateurs will be among BOTH the bikers AND the marchers.

          Americans DON’T kill Americans…you dumbass. All YOU are is a punk hired by the CRIMINAL GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES to come here and post divisive bvllsh!t.

      • James Raulerson

        The Bike ride has taken place since 2010, it has nothing to do with The muslim march, its all about the memory of those lost on 9/11, yet some dumb asses want to tarnish the ride by using it to push their agendas, but as for calling the bikers stupis, well lets see ya get out from behind your fucking computer and say it ones face

  • CitizenQuasar

    This so called “Million Muslim March” is NOT a million Muslim march but, since February 2012 has been an all inclusive “Million American March AGAINST Fear.”

    It is a march that anyone is welcome to join in and it is against the fear that the government, and lying government shills like Sean Hannity, seek to stir up in your mind. You are 40 times more likely to get struck by lightning than you are to be killed by terrorists. This one statistic puts the lie to the entire “War on Terror.”

    The corporate media is still calling the “Million American March Against Fear” the “Million Muslim March” even though it has NOT been called that for over a year and its agenda changed over a year ago.

    I learned about this today by watching Michael Rivero on his video-cast “What Really Happened (1PM-4PM CST).” He interviewed the spokesman of the march, Dr. Kevin Barrett.

    The march will be peaceful unless agents provocateur stir things up otherwise.

    LINK: http://mamaf.webs.com/

    • aimhigh1

      Name ONE thing Sean Hannity has lied about??
      This is a Muslim sponsored event!! Why not go to Fort Hood where 13 Americans were MURDERED by a Muslim and tell them about your “peaceful” religion?

      • Sulli159

        Never forget
        Barbary pirates
        Marine Corps bombing in Beruit
        1993
        Sept 11, 2001
        Boston Marathon
        Arkansas recruiting station
        DC Sniper
        James Holmes
        Benghazi
        Zebra killings by the black Nation of Islam (Death Angels) “The full number of those murdered by the “Death Angels” of the Nation of Islam may never be known. Estimates range anywhere from 71 to over 200. Those targeted were children as young as 11 year old Michele Denise Carrasco and as old as 81-year-old janitor Ilario Bertuccio. Salvation Army cadets, college students, a retired coast guardsman. The victims were shot, mutilated, raped or decapitated. Some were so badly mutilated that their identities have never been learned.The killers were Nation of Islam members and in some cases used NOI businesses to carry out their atrocities. Their defense was paid for by the Nation of Islam. The horrifying crimes had been committed because the Black Muslim perpetrators believed that murder was their “ticket to heaven”.
        http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/25122
        21, 453 deaths by muslims since 9/11
        1.5 million Armenians
        Approximately 100 million + black Africans.

        • Kenneth Clark

          and the NSA never caught a hint!

        • BamaG

          AND lets add in ALL those Christians who have been targeted for centuries by the muslims, sold off into slavery and used for whatever they deemed, because they are looked down upon.
          This idea of bait and switch event name is just that and I for one am tired of allowing biased liberals spewing a version that will continue to be broadcast. The more people that do attend, and take video – the less power these liberals have to pervert the truth.

          • Sulli159

            Agree on the bait and switch too. This isn’t a march of muslims against fear. It is a show of force to instill fear. And once again the MSM will photo shop them to look like Little Muslims on the Prarie. Once they reach a certain percentage in any country they are in like France, UK, Nethelands etc….they will increase their activities to include car burnings, riots in the streets, and murders People are so low informed, or they don’t care or just turn a blind eye of what is going on in plain site. Just research on Dearbornistan, Michigan, Nashville and Memphis TN, the jihad training camps, conversion in our prison system and some of our states have actually had to pass laws to ban Sharia in our own courts. Why should we “have” to do that?

      • Becci Himes
      • Sarine

        How many times does he have to say that he is not a Muslim. Kudos to a march against fear, hate, misunderstandings, labeling, and against all the hidden agendas and lies that caused more murders and terror in a “fight against terror”. Murders are terrible, and they happen in the name of many different “religions”. There are good Christian and evil ones and good Muslims and evil ones. There are good americans and evil Americans. WE need to be very watchful and careful that our misunderstandings do not change a peaceful “ride of honor” for those who died on 9/11 or or a “march against fear” into the conflict that would indeed spark an internal battle that would just weaken and blind us more to the enemies within as well as without. Hate is the true enemy here. How about the bikers join in, instead of disrupt the march against fear. It seems even bikers have those who misunderstand or lable them and “fear” them out of not truly knowing them or categorizing them the same way that many different groups of different people or beliefs are categorized.

        • aimhigh1

          The difference between the Christian and Muslim religion is that the Muslim religion is on based on hate.
          Cutting off heads ONLY because someone is Christian. Stoning women to death who are raped. Raping and murdering girls because they want to go to school And this in the 21st Century!!!
          Show me where Christians have done that in this century.

    • DmitryFloridian

      Hey, Quasar (BTW, quite popular name in Pakistan, I guess, you are one of those “peaceful people”), we already educated well enough in your barbaric cult to know what “taquia” means. Go pull shaky leg of your libtards sympathizers.

      • CitizenQuasar

        I have NO idea what “taquia” means. I do NOT know what you mean by “peaceful people.” I was nicknamed “Quasar” after a television set. There were already so many Quasars on the internet that instead of sticking an easily forgotten number after it I just put the word “Citizen” before it. It is the only one as far as I know.

        • DmitryFloridian

          Interloping in the discussion of muslims/islam without knowing what “taquia” is is akin to admiring Bill Clinton without ever hearing the name “Monica”. I feel sorry for wasting my time on such ignoramus. No more.

          • CitizenQuasar

            “Interloping?” I merely did set the record straight that the American March Against Fear is the one Sean Hannity that Sean Hannity is lying to everyone about telling them that it is “The Million Muslim March.” I startpaged “taquia” and glanced at it for a few seconds. As I am NOT a faithist, I am NOT too interested in the differences between Islam and Christianity and their make believe superstitious god, saviors, Santa Clause, or Great Pumpkins. To me they are nothing but superstitions. I have a Muslim roommate who is very nice, clean, and hard working and I have a Christian neighbors on either side that are the same.

            Other lies that Hannity tells is that 19 whacked out Muslims armed with nothing but box cutters high-jacked 4 passenger liners that flew for hours over American air space without being intercepted a single time and under the leadership of a man on kidney dialysis with a laptop computer in a cave in Afghanistan successfully attacked the Pentagon and burned down steel buildings for the first time in history with kerosene based jet fuel.

          • Kenneth Clark

            Yes, I think the opium may be cut with something else.

          • KnowI’mLucky

            HEY TV GUY,
            Are you planning on going to the Million American March?

          • CitizenQuasar

            No.

          • CitizenQuasar

            Thanks.

          • BamaG

            what bothers you more : that Sean Hannity is allowed to tell the truth, or that Sean Hannity tells the truth.
            take your time.

          • CitizenQuasar

            The ONLY reason that you think Sean Hannity tells the truth is because you refuse to allow yourself to know the truth. Sean Hannity is one of the biggest liars of all time.

            I can lead a horse to water but I can’t make it drink. Here are some news sources that show Sean Hannity to be a liar:

            http://www.drudgereport.com/
            http://www.infowars.com/
            http://blacklistednews.com/
            http://whatreallyhappened.com/
            http://www.gizadeathstar.com/
            http://adask.wordpress.com/
            http://deadlinelive.info/
            http://blackopradio.com/
            http://www.themicroeffect.com/
            http://www.coasttocoastam.com/

            Any ONE of them will do it.

          • Becci Himes

            That Sean Hannity lies. That REALLY bothers me.

      • Mary

        And you wonder why they fly planes into you

        • nicknirm

          Because they dont have the wits to build proper weapons.

        • Jerry

          At least we can build planes and put a man on the moon. Those sand apes and pigs can’t even produce a car.

    • Tom Jones

      you biased fucking piece of pig dung. Hannity a liar? You will not hear 1 lie come out of his mouth. It is how you fucking jerkoffs spin it that it comes out of your brains as a lie. I throw pig dung on you all!

      • CitizenQuasar

        Hannity is one of the biggest liars on Earth. You need to get a wider perspective. First, turn that television OFF. Second, tune into Alex Jones. Get a broader perspective and one that is based in demonstrable fact and NOT that demonstrably false government licensed propaganda that Sean Hannity puts out.

        Also, I like to point out that when people have NO facts to support their point of view and they are unable to reason through their emotions then their strongest argument(s) is nothing but profanity and insult hurling. This is what you are doing, sir.

        • Tom Jones

          and where are your facts ass hole?

          • CitizenQuasar

            Let’s start with the point at hand. Sean Hannity is saying this is a Million Muslim March containing only Muslims and that they are demonstrating against the American way of life (…which the last few years has consisted of bombing and invading Muslim countries, drone striking their weddings, etc.) while the truth is that the 9/11 march will be “Million American March Against Fear.”

            http://mamaf.webs.com/

            Sean Hannity is lying when he says this.

            SOURCE: http://www.whatreallyhappened.com

            “Million American March Against Fear on 9/11/13

            AMPAC – The American Muslim Political Action Committee AMPAC in
            cooperation and solidarity with PANDAA – People Against the National
            Defense Authorization Act, AMA – American Muslim Alliance, AMT –
            American Muslim Task Force, NDPAAC – National Democratic Party Asian
            American Caucus, NYDPAAC – New York Democratic Party Asian American
            Caucus, NABAB – North American Bangladeshi Association for Bangladesh,
            MDPAAC – Missouri Democratic Party Asian American Caucus, CLA –
            Community Leadership Affairs, SACC – South Asian Chamber of Commerce,
            Mosque Care, DC Area 9/11 Truth Movement ,A&E – Architects and
            Engineers for 9/11 Truth Movement, OWS Movement, MAS Freedom – Muslim
            American Society, MMAT – Muslim Marching Against Terrorism, MD Rabbi
            Alam – the Founder of AMPAC, Richard Gage – the Founder of Architects
            and Engineers for 9/11 Truth Movement, Dr. Kevin Barrett – the National
            Spokesperson for Muslim Think Tank, Imam Mahdi Bray the National
            Executive Director of MAS Freedom, Will Coley National Political
            Director of Muslim for Liberty and AMPAC organizer of Tennessee and The
            March Against Drones (MAD) will be gathering on the National Mall, and
            then launching a march on the halls of power.”

          • Kenneth Clark

            and all of these groups have what common factor? Can we say… Islam. You really should take a very close look at the religion you are promoting here. They would just as easily walk across your dead body and pray Alla’s blessings upon them for doing so.

          • CitizenQuasar

            One of the groups is “Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth.” This has absolutely NOTHING to do with Islam. However, your television soaked brain can’t get around anything that doesn’t come out of a government propagandists mouth. You have been programmed that Islam is bad (like uh…Christianity is any better…) and you see boogeymen…I mean uh Muslims…behind every bush.

            Well, Kenneth Clark, not only can I say that my personal experiences with Muslims shows me that they are just like everybody else but I am here to tell uyou that this whole “War on Terror” thing is directed at enslaving America and taking us over with military force. You’d best wake up and think about what I am saying here. The biggest danger we are in is from our own government.

          • BamaG

            the logical way around this is : pick another day. however, MD Rabbi Alam, the organizer of the Million Muslim March planned to take place on September 11 is in commemoration of the attacks of 9/11/2001

            he chose that day. he has been asked NOT to make their so-called stand on that date, but he has said NO he is a jew hating democrat

            why is that? what purpose does it serve to gather at the nations capitol on a day that is forever known as a day that America was attacked by people who were muslim, and did so because of their so called religion?

            Dr. Zuhdi Jasser has made it clear that they – those behind this group – are nothing more than exploiting the murders that happened on 9 / 11 / 2001 and he is correct to call

            your links mean nothing. it is more propaganda meant to sway people who do not wish to see the truth. and it definitely means nothing to Americans who know what they stand for, by their own words :

            “Yet our Government either sits idly by and does nothing to protect our freedoms or it exacerbates the problem with its constant war on terrorism in Islamic countries, congressional hearings on Islam in America, and its changes to the NDAA [National Defense Authorization Act] law”
            .. exacerbates the problem with its constant war on terrorism in Islamic countries? really? because if you are HERE – than you should be here legally, and should be embracing American ways, not trying to force your sharia laws onto Americans

          • CitizenQuasar

            “the logical way around this is : pick another day. however, MD Rabbi Alam, the organizer of the Million Muslim March planned to take place on September 11 is in commemoration of the attacks of 9/11/2001”
            Here is what yopu ar calling the “Million Muslim March: Million American March Against Fear which is being held at the National Mall in Washington D.C between 3rd and 14th . Where will you be when Americans stop being ruled by fear and stand against tyranny regardless of religious, racial, or political beliefs? We will stand together in solidarity and demand President Obama fulfill his promise of a transparent government and hold those accountable for selling our lives and causing financial ruin in pursuit of endless wars. We will take our country back and own up to our civic responsibility of being the most important part of the governmental checks and balance system because freedom isn’t free. We will speak out against the lies and secrecy that our government has spread with its fear mongering propaganda that has plagued us for almost 12 years since that horrible day on 9/11. We are presenting a united front of civic minded citizens against terrorism whether foreign or domestic or if it caused by a IED or a Drone. Join us and help us regain our Republic back and demonstrate our collective cry for our civil rights and preservation of the Constitution of the United States. We are Muslims for the Constitution. We are marching in conjunction with speakers from various Non Muslim organizations to show a chain of events that have changed our country from how our government votes on its foreign and domestic policy to how its citizens see and treat Muslim Americans. It has shaped our media to make the word terrorist synonymous with Muslim and has spoon fed this into the minds of ever American citizen to the point they do not see us as worthy of Constitutional rights or even as human. Muslims and non Muslim can and has been incarcerated indefinitely and even murdered all because of the story most have been lead to believe that 19 men represent the belief of 1.6 billion Muslims worldwide. Our government has used fear as a tool to strip all Americans of their civil rights with the NSA and Prism’s data collection of every American to the Federal courts upholding the NDAA as constitutional even as numerous civil rights organizations and a few states have deemed it unconstitutional. We will start with Kevin Barrett – 9/11 Truth Movement -608.583.2132,Greg Boyd -DC Area Architecture and Engineer (A&E) for Truth Movement- 301.263.0980,Matt Sullivan -DC Area 9/11 Truth Movement, Joe D’Anjelo: Chicago 9/11 Truth Movement – 312.504.9952,Nick Defonte, PA – Williamsport Tea Party organizer: 570.244.1135,Darrel Wyatt – National Long Tennis Champ: 913.206.8872, Angela Habibullah, Attorney-at-Law – NOI: 816.582-4874, Will Coley, Tn – Muslims for Liberty , Imam Wali Karim, Progressive Leadership Legacy’s Inc, Chicago: 773.206.6616, Imam Khalil Abdur Rahim – Mosque Care North Carolina : 336.312.4417, Chris Phillips – Organizer & Director MAD : Marching Against Drones – 347.793.0498, Amanda Buckner – AMPAC South Carololina Organizer – 803.226.8021, MD Alam – Founder of AMPAC – 816.372.1873, and Isa Hodge – Operations Chief with AMPAC – 816.482.6893 as the MC with more speakers to be announced.

            “what purpose does it serve to gather at the nations capitol on a day that is forever known as a day that America was attacked by people who were muslim, and did so because of their so called religion?”
            There is ZERO evidence that Muslims had anything at all to do with 9/11. Even Osama bin Laden denied any involvement with those attacks. The ONLY thing those attacks had to do with the Muslims is that the United States government, the United States government being the one that attacked its own citizens on 9/11/01, wanted to start a war and needed a scapegoat, an enemy.
            The whole point of the American March Against Fear is to peacefully turn the tied on the forces of evil that have taken over the American government and are orchestrating false flag tereror operations in order to bring brutal tyranny to the United States.

            “your links mean nothing. “
            My link means everything. My link provides accurate and verifiable proof that you and your Hannity Insanity kooks are not only wrong but intent on destroying America from within.

            “American ways, not trying to force your sharia laws onto Americans”

            I am so tired of hearing you morons say this. You use this word “sharia” as if to cast a magical spell. The word sharia only means that it is alledgedly ordained by God, much like the Ten Commandments. Islamic law, like all laws that have stood for centuries, has its good points too. You saying that Muslims are trying to FORCE Sharia law onto America is a total lie. The ONLY ones who are trying to force their ways onto America is the Christains and they are the reason the First Amendment was placed into the Constitution, to protect NON-Christians from persecution by Christains.

            The truth of the matter is that whomever you really are, what you are doing posting here is NOT seeking to protect America but you are attempting to stir up confrontation in America and the only way you can do it is through 100% lies and deception. Unfortunately for you, enough Americans are waking up that even if America gets conquered then many of the crooks who destroyed her will die.

          • Bill Moss

            Hey Dumb A$$ you yourself called it “the Million Muslim March at the begining of this argument. Thanks for making our point dill wad. LOL I gues next you are going to tell us the MB Rabbi Alam is a Budest Monk Priest and not a Muslim. At first I thought you were one of those people they used to say was touched by God, you know a little goofy. But now I can see I was wrong, God must have smacked the crab out of you cause you a plumb frickin nuts. Al well it has been fun watching you rant and rave about how you love Muslims and show all your knowledge of their faith. Especially since you did not know the meaning of taquia. I have studied Islam and you try to school me. Bawahahaha You are an idiot. Anyway have fun my supper is waiting little frightened man. March for Fear and enjoy the bacon. P.S. I typed Frightened Little Beotch on my G.P.S. and I’m in your driveway. LOL Vroom Vroom Mother Fuker.

          • CitizenQuasar

            It is obvious to me that you are NOT a Christian. What you are, whether web bot or real person, is nothing but an agitator and a trouble maker. You are a government operative who is interested in one thing and one thing only and that is to stir up a fight on 9/11/13.

            Given the documented history of false flag operations conducted by the American government, I know there are going to be snipers who will shoot into any confrontation between marchers and bikers for the sole purpose of starting violence and bloodshed as an excuse for the government to kill a bloodbath. The hope here by people like you is to start a civil war and to use the war machine constructed to allegedly fight Muslim terrorists to militarily take over and enslave the United States at the point of a gun.

            Perhaps you are one of the very snipers who will shoot into the crowds on 9/11/13. Whomever you are, you have blown your cover and anybody who reads any of your comments can see that, at the very least, you can NOT tell right from wrong and you are NOT in favor of peace, freedom, rights, nor understanding.

          • DanielKnight4Christ

            “It is obvious to me that you are NOT a Christian.” Learn what logical fallacies are, liberal. And holy mother of mothers I’m not reading the rest of what is an obvious anger rant. Bye Jedi Retardz

          • CitizenQuasar

            To the mystic, emotions are tools of cognition,
            and wishes take precedence over facts. He seeks to escape the risks of a quest
            for knowledge by obliterating the distinction between consciousness and
            reality, between the perceiver and the perceived, hoping that an automatic
            certainty and an infallible knowledge of the universe will be granted to him by
            the blind, unfocused stare of his eyes turned inward, contemplating the
            sensations, the feelings, the urgings, the muggy associational twistings
            projected by the rudderless mechanism of his undirected consciousness. Whatever
            his mechanism produces is an absolute not to be questioned; and whenever it
            clashes with reality, it is reality that he ignores.

          • DanielKnight4Christ

            Diltard, I am not reading anything you say, you are a hypocritical assumer moron, a self condemned troll. Ignored.

          • CitizenQuasar

            A right is a moral principle defining and sanctioning a man’s range of activity in a social environment and this right principle is that a man must never initiate the use of force in human interactions.

          • CitizenQuasar

            As always, the parting argument is name calling and insults.

          • CitizenQuasar

            MORE Facts the Sean Hannity lies about:

            PICTUTES: http://www.infowars.com/gunshot-wound-to-dzhokhars-face-contradicts-original-boston-bombing-narrative/

            Medical report reveals Dzhokhar Tsarnaev suffered from fractured skull due to gunshot wound to the face.

            Trauma surgeon Stephen Ray Odom, of Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center, testified on April 22 that alleged Boston
            bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev suffered from a “high-powered injury” that resulted in wounds to the middle ear, the skull base, his vertebrae and his pharynx.

            The testimony, which was unsealed this week, indicates Tsarnaev’s most serious injury was a gunshot wound to the head that appeared to enter through the “lower left side of his mouth, exiting through the lower left side of his face,” according to CNN’s recent report.

            However, the photographs released by Sgt. Sean Murphy, a tactical photographer with the Massachusetts State Police, shows Tsarnaev standing upright holding his hands in the air as an act of submission before being apprehended by police.

            Based on the released photos, it’s obvious that Tsarnaev had not suffered from a gunshot wound to the face at this point. If he had, he most likely wouldn’t have been mobile, let alone able stand and walk towards police surrendering himself.

            The Daily Mail reported that Dzhokhar suffered from multiple gunshot wounds, including one that left his skull fractured.

            Dr. Odom’s report does not state whether the wounds were self-inflicted, or caused by police during the shootout.

            Initial reports stated that police fired at Tsarnaev using rubber bullets (which is debunked through the audio of the video below), however once photos of the boat riddled with bullet holes emerged, police retracted that story replacing it with allegations that Tsarnaev was armed and firing at police.

            These allegations were also later debunked when reports revealed that Tsarnaev was not found with any weapons.

            Boston Police Commissioner Ed Davis claims Tsarnaev “fired several shots from inside the boat,” reported the NY Post. The report also states that Dzhokhar suffered a wound to the back of the neck in a possible suicide attempt.

            According to the government’s narrative, Tsarnaev thought he was dying so he searched the boat, was able to find a pen and wrote the following messages inside the interior of the boat wall:

            • “F*** America”
            • “Praise Allah”
            • He mentioned “infidels”
            • He “‘does not mourn’ the death of his older brother because he is a martyr
            living in the ‘paradise’ and that he expected to join him there soon”

            • He wrote that the “bombings were retribution for the various American crimes against Muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan”

            • He called the victims of the bombing “‘collateral damage’ like the thousands
            of innocent Muslim victims of American wars across the globe”

            • He also said “When you attack one Muslim, you attack all Muslims”

            It seems ridiculous to imagine Tsarnaev writing all these messages during his final moments. And of course the public can’t view the messages because the boat was so badly riddled with bullet holes, yet it was reportedly legible enough for police to make it out.

            Despite reports that Tsarnaev tried to kill himself, the timing of his injuries is debatable.

            Did cops inflict the throat and/or bullet wounds to the head after Tsarnaev was apprehended by police in an attempt to kill him, or at the very minimum, disable his ability to speak?

            Officials reportedly spent several days questioning Tsarnaev before reading his rights under the excuse that he was a “public safety exception,” which allows investigators to question a suspect without reading their Miranda Rights, reported CNN.

            Infowars editor Kurt Nimmo disclosed in a July report that Officer Jeff Campbell of the Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority Transit Police SWAT Unit said, “I did see a throat
            injury. To me it looked more like a knife wound.”

            “It wasn’t a puncture hole. It was a slice where it was spread open, possibly a piece of shrapnel from one of the explosives that they were using the night before. It didn’t look like a bullet wound to me. It looked like a cut of some kind.”

            While inconsistencies continue to plague this case, one thing is certain and that’s that the story is sure to change again,
            evolving in a manner that compliments the government’s agenda.

            Link to confirming pictures and video:

            http://www.infowars.com/gunshot-wound-to-dzhokhars-face-contradicts-original-boston-bombing-narrative/

          • Kenneth Clark

            At least he is alive unlike the little boy whom he helped kill at the marathon and the young man with no legs now.

          • KnowI’mLucky

            To the guy named for a TV. For a someone that’s not a muslim, you sure sound like one. Hey, explain my buddy Sean Collier. You know, the MIT cop these 2 morons shot in the back of the head to steal his gun so they could then have 2. Only to be turned away empty because they couldn’t figure out the holster lock. How about the way they were caught, by the Lojack that was triggered in the hijacked Mercedes. Dzhokhar killed his brother by running over him while trying to escape. These cowards were absolutely the bombers and their actions were beyond all logical comprehension. I’m sure you will not believe this and I would love to have 30 seconds of your time to explain it to you personally.

          • CitizenQuasar

            Dzhokhar killed his brother by running over him while trying to escape”
            That was all made up. Dzhokhar did NO such thing anymore than Saddam’s soldiers pulled babies out of incubators during Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait.
            This is a lie put out by the murderous cowards that staged the Boston bombing…and the ensuing un-American paramilitary takeover of that city. The paramilitary takeover of Boston was a beta test for taking over other American cities by paramilitary or full military force. It’s the same game plan that Hitler used.

            There was NO cop shot at MIT and this has come out in official government documents and in the news.

            It’s all media hype just to get your dander up and make your blood boil. It’s all provable, and often admitted to, lies just to manipulate you. The entire Boston bombing was a fake event and this has been proven time and again. Just turn off the TV (which is government licensed information) and look around on the internet and you will see.

          • Daniel Minchew

            i need your address to send gun and one bullet………are you smart enough to know why??????????

          • CitizenQuasar

            If you are calling me out for a duel to the death then we can do that at your end, punk. However, since what is between the legs is nothing but a queefing hole, I think that is NOT going to happen.

          • Daniel Minchew

            You are still in my prayers,even though there is no hope for you….sad….

          • CitizenQuasar

            That’s what I though: You’d back down and turn around. You are a coward.

          • Daniel Minchew

            Go pray to your rock or whatever…..idiot’s!!!!!!!

          • CitizenQuasar

            I do not pray. It is against my religion.

            I am beginning to think you are nothing but a piece of software. Possibly some high school kid’s prank. However, I consider it more likely that you are government produced because of your incessant harping against Islam even though you are arguing with an Objectivist.

            Either that or you are just incredibly stupid.

          • nicknirm

            Just Shut Up and Rad your Koran Boy.

          • CitizenQuasar

            I don’t own a Koran. I see NO reason to read the Koran.

            Your willful refusal to examine evidence, your willful refusal to even look at anything that doesn’t agree with what you get from the government licensed corporate media (owned by only five corporations) shows that you are NOT interested in the truth but that you are hiding from it. You are rationalizing.

            Since an emotion is experienced as an immediate primary, but is, in fact, a complex, derivative sum, it permits men to practice one of the ugliest of psychological phenomena: rationalization. Rationalization is a cover-up, a process of providing one’s emotions with a false identity, of giving them spurious explanations and justifications—in order to hide one’s motives, not just from others, but primarily from oneself. The price of rationalizing is the hampering, the distortion and, ultimately, the destruction of one’s cognitive faculty. Rationalization is a process not of perceiving reality, but of attempting to make reality fit one’s emotions.

            “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” Well here is a blast from the past:

            “Why of course the people don’t want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don’t want war neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”

            —Hermann Goering on April 18, 1946 at the Nuremberg trials.

            The demonstrable fact IS that the entire War on Terror is a fake and its target is the enslavement of the American people in the name of protecting them. This is the way that game has always been played.

            It is people like you who, instead of doing all they can to seek the truth and to be informed, willfully ignore the truth because you find it disturbing and you don’t like to be disturbed. Well, when tyranny comes to America, and it has already made great inroads with things like the TSA and the DHS (which has already bought over a billion rounds of ammunition, the TSA having bought enough for every TSA agent they have to fire over 6,000 rounds each day for a year and NOT run out of ammo), and military urban warfare exercises going on all over the place on Mainstreet USA, your refusal to examine and acknowledge the facts will NOT protect you.

            BTW: Do you fly on airlines? If you do then do you stand idly by while TSA agents grope your wife or girlfriend’s crotch (not to mention those of your daughters), take your children into the other room and strip search them away from your presence, when they grab and squeeze your testicles? Does this make you feel safe? Does this sound like freedom to you?

            Pull your head out of your ass, boy.

          • CitizenQuasar

            PS
            In World War II the scapegoat of the German government was the Jews.

            In World War III, the scapegoat of the American government is the Muslims.

            (The nation of Israel, being the only country with nuclear weapons in the Middle East, is not in any danger. Yet the American government still dumps billions and billions of American tax dollars into the Israeli Defense Force.)

          • BamaG

            the jews are still the slaughtered, as well as the Christians, at the hands of the muslims.

          • CitizenQuasar

            If you are referring to the nation of Israel, you are mistaken.

            The nation of Israel was planned for a long time and is a scam.

            The Jews in Nazi Germany were Khazarian (think Russia) by race and NOT even genetically related to the Biblical Jews. The only reason there were Khazar (Ashkenazi) Jews in Europe was because Joseph II, King of the Khazars, adopted Judaism as the state religion in his kingdom in 802 A.D. He did this to spite the Christian Byzantines to his west and to spite the Muslim Ottomans to his south.

            The first time the word “Jew” appears in the Bible is in 2 Kings 16:6 KJV where the Jews are at war against the Kingdom of Israel. So according to the Bible the Jews are NOT Israelites. There are other verses, which you can look up for yourself, where the Jews, against the command of God, intermarried with conquered peoples and became a mongrel race.
            In Matthew 13:55-56 we read that Jesus had both brothers and sisters. It stands to reason that they married into the local population and, given that almost 2,000 years elapsed by World War II, it is likely that everybody living in Palestine at that time was genetically descended from at least one of Jesus’ siblings.

            It would have made good sense for the Khazarian Jew in Europe at the end of WWII to stay in Europe. Those who say they had to leave because they would have been in danger there like to ignore the fact that all of Nazi Germany was under the administration of conquering armies and these, some of which are still there today 67 years later, would have protected them. This would have allowed German society to heal back up.

            Instead, the United Nations, which has NO jurisdiction anywhere, decreed that the nation of Israel be founded in Palestine and the Ashkenazi to be moved their. In order to do this the Palestinians and Jews living side by side in Palestine(Look at currency from Palestine from that time and you will see Yiddish on it.) had to be kicked off their land that they had lived on for millennia. Thus, the NON-Jews from Europe stole the homeland from the descendants of Jesus’ family and they did this by killing Jesus’ blood kinfolk. Today, the nation of Israel is in the latter stages of the genocide of these people related to the Christian savior Jesus.

            Israel has nuclear weapons and nobody else in the Mid East has nuclear weapons so why oh why do they need anything from the American tax payer for their defense. Israel is an aggressor country as can be seen from the fact that it keeps attacking its neighbors and stirring up wars. The United States government sends America’s sons and daughters to die in wars that Israel wants fought so that NO Israelis have to die but many American soldiers come back killed or maimed.

            Further, the whole reason the nation of Israel was put there in the first place is to cause tension in the region that is used by the military industrial complex to drive an arms race so that somewhere cash registers ring.

            Personally, I do NOT blame the Muslims, of which there are over a billion world wide, if they drive the nation of Israel, the same one that intentionally bombed the USS Liberty in 1967 in a false flag operation intended to get America to attack Egypt, I wouldn’t blame the Muslims if they drove the nation of Israel into the sea.

            As for why Muslims hate the United States, this likely has something to do with the United States sending drones over Muslim countries that attack things like weddings and killed hundreds of children…in the name of trying to kill ONE person who is “suspected” of being a terrorist.

          • CitizenQuasar

            “French Fries and Gravy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdY3U5XR6lI

        • Hargraves Ian

          We need to turn YOU off since you are a television.

          • CitizenQuasar

            I am a voice shouting in the wilderness, one of the few that tell the truth, and you would extinguish my light in favor of your darkness.

          • Sulli159

            “voice shouting in the wilderness” Be careful what you take from the Bible you do not believe in. Christian John the Baptist got decapitated by the Roman Empire. ooops that what muslims do. So go into some other wilderness shouting preferably the Saudi desert or in another universe.

          • CitizenQuasar

            As far as I know, I am NOT violating anyone’s copyright.

          • Kenneth Clark

            yep the opium is taking hold.

          • Matt Arrigo

            That’s your reply to factual information? lol, you people are INCREDIBLE. He stands to his word, you asked for the information and you received. Where are you’re facts to your rhetorical garbage? If not, learn how to discuss/ debate in beyond a grade 2 level. That’s the american mentality you hold so gracefully, open-minded and willing to see someone else perspective. How could people ever hate the american dream? the psuedo freedom? Oh yeah, we go into other countries to bring them to our standards, but God forbid other people try to HELP us. lol. Red, white and blue.

          • Matt Arrigo

            You also need to read about muslims, the wars, and american foreign policies. You may find out the ruthless muslims may actually be funded by those stars and stripes you hold so dear to your heart. There’s a world outside the box. I’m hopeful of the day we realize a flag is simply a representation of the land you were born on, or may currently reside on – that one day we will realize the earth is our home, and we are all brothers and sisters.

          • KnowI’mLucky

            Another country might provide you with a better option.

        • kT TK

          Islam is the religion of lies, liars, and liest.

          • CitizenQuasar

            ALL religions are based on liars. These include Christianity. But I can live with it. My roommate is a Muslim and he is a fine gentleman and Christians live on either side of me and they are very nice people too.

            I myself am an Objectivist. That means I am an atheist.

          • Jerry

            Than pack up and get out. You are headed for hell whether you believe it or not.

          • CitizenQuasar

            “(sic)Than pack up and get out.”
            Why? I am doing fine right where I am.

            “You are headed for hell whether you believe it or not.”
            Just because I refuse to play along with you that your imaginary friend “God” is real, you tell me that your imaginary “loving” god is going to torture me for eternity in the name of “love.” Thinly veiled inside this is your desire to scare me into submitting to your mind and endorsing tour imaginary friends that exist ONLY in your imagination simply because I want some evidence something is real before I accept it as real. This desire by you to terrify me into submission fits the very definition of terrorist.

          • Jerry

            I am not trying to turn you into anything. I have seen thousands of signs of God, some as simple as a facial expression in me or through others. I don’t know your whole life but God may not think you show him enough effort to find him. Or possibly he has made his determination for you. We believer’s peace will come when we never have to be associated with you and/or your kind ever again.

          • Daniel Minchew

            OK time to pull plug on you,first idioits like you who use some dumb ass screen name to cover up ??????I post under my GOD giving name……..o and lay the pipe domn…

          • CitizenQuasar

            “OK time to pull plug on you,”
            Are you trying to run me off the internet? (ROTFLMAO) Do YOU own this website? If you do then the way to get rid of me is to pull the plug on your server.

            “first (sic)idioits like you who use some dumb ass screen name…”
            That is entirely your subjective opinion. What if I think Daniel Minchew is a dumb ass name?

            “to cover up ??????”
            Given that there are over a billion people on the internet, and no small number of those are stark raving lunatics, I prefer a little anonymity. However, this is the moniker I was using when I was arrested by an FBI SWAT team so I’m not covering anything up from them. My use of this moniker is a rather BOLD thing in that regard. It shows that I am NOT afraid of having M-16s shoved in my face again, which could happen any time.

            “I post under my GOD giving name”
            Your “GOD (sic) giving name?”
            You mean your parents didn’t name you? Are you the son of God?

            “……..o and lay the pipe (sic)domn…”
            I don’t smoke a pipe.

          • Daniel Minchew

            You have way to much time on your hands…ill pray for you!!!!!

          • CitizenQuasar

            “That won’t do any good because I don’t believe in your god.”
            —Jesse Ventura

          • Daniel Minchew

            My friend; there is your proof….sad

          • CitizenQuasar

            I think Jesse Ventura would make a good President. However, I also think that it is time for a NEW form of government and that the present one needs to be thrown off in any manner deemed expedient.

          • CitizenQuasar

            “It is not a God, just and good, but a devil, under the name of God, that the Bible describes.”
            —Thomas Paine, George Washington’s speech writer.

          • CitizenQuasar

            “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.”
            —Thomas Paine

          • Jerry

            Whatever you and Demons want to say. I owe you condemned nothing.

          • Jerry

            C.Q. , You are demon possessed. The devil will not allow you to see the truth. You are in serious need of some spiritual help. Not a threat just some advice. I don’t care what you do.

          • CitizenQuasar

            Things like demons, devils,and spirits exist only in your imagination. They require magic and are only superstitions. You are in serious need of some psychiatric help. I don’t care what you do.

          • Jerry

            Is that all you can do is repeat my words like a child? You are still only the demon no matter what you do or say. Not my imagination at all. You still haven’t stopped me demon and you never will demon and C.Q.

          • CitizenQuasar

            As always, people like you who have no evidence except what you have conjured up inside your own mind, resort to name calling and insults as your proof. Get a life.

          • Jerry

            Enjoy you condemnation.

          • CitizenQuasar

            That’s NOT a very polite thing to say.

          • Jerry

            I didn’t intend to be polite to you. Do you think you are polite to the families of 911?

          • JW

            As a follower of Jesus, I apologize for those who also claim the name of Christ but do not speak out of love. We are to be ambassadors for God, not judge of the lost.

            I agree that our government is not usually a righteous one. I also agree that Islam wants the world under its control as much as our government wants its own One World Government. Both are against true freedom and our constitution.

            True freedom is only found in knowing Jesus and on His behalf I do urge you to reconsider the evidence FOR the truth of the Bible. Many have set out to disprove the Bible and the claim that Jesus Is God. None have succeeded and I don’t know of one who has not concluded the Bible is true.

            I love you as a brother because God made you and His thoughts about you are more than the sand on the shore or stars in the sky. Seek and you will find Him. He will not force Himself on you or anyone else. Love demanded or forced is not really love. God loved you enough to kill His only Son so you and I wouldn’t have to die. Bit He also loves you enough not to force Himself on you. The band thing about hell is not fire and brimstone, but an eternity knowing you are separated from the God of love.

          • CitizenQuasar

            “I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own – a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty.” —Albert Einstein

            You claim that you perceive a mode of being superior to my existence on this earth. The mystics of spirit call it “another dimension,” which consists of denying dimensions. To exist is to possess identity. What identity are you able to give to your superior realm? You keep telling me what it is not, but never tell you what it is. All your identifications consist of negating: God is that which no human mind can know, you say—and proceed to demand that I consider it knowledge—God is non-man, heaven is non-earth, soul is non-body, virtue is non-profit, A is non-A, perception is non-sensory, knowledge is non-reason. Your definitions are NOT acts of defining, but of wiping out.

            Every argument for God and every attribute ascribed to Him rests on a false metaphysical premise. None can survive for a moment on a correct metaphysics.
            Is God the creator of the universe? There can be no creation of something out of nothing. There is no nothing.
            Is God omnipotent? Can he do anything? Entities can act only in accordance with their natures; nothing can make them violate their natures.
            “God” as traditionally defined is a systematic contradiction of every valid metaphysical principle. The point is wider than just the Judeo-Christian concept of God. No argument will get you from this world to a supernatural world. No reason will lead you to a world contradicting this one. No method of inference will enable you to leap from existence to a “super-existence.”

          • CitizenQuasar

            “It is not a God, just and good, but a devil, under the name of God, that the Bible describes.”
            —Thomas Paine, George Washington’s speech writer.

          • Michael Saenz

            You are so NOT an Objectivist.

          • CitizenQuasar

            How so?

          • Michael Saenz

            You’re kidding, right? Promoting conspiracy theories left and right while arguing with Christians about newscasters? Give me a break. Way to get to fundamentals.

          • CitizenQuasar

            Everything I say can be proven to be fact…or dis-proved if if the facts don’t bear me out. The fact of the matter IS that almost everything that goes on in the world today is some kind of conspiracy. We are allowed to believe in conspiracies in the past. History is rife with political conspiracies. However, when it comes to modern day political conspiracies, such as the conspiracy that assassinated president Kennedy among others, we are ridiculed and called kooks if we dare speak of such or attempt to expose the facts.

            This is ironic becuase the main charge that is levied by the American federal government against defendants in federal courts is conspiracy; and they win 98% of their cases.

            Now, please explain to me why you think that I am NOT an Objectivist.

          • Mike Saenz

            You don’t address fundamentals. You don’t promote (or seem to even use) Objectivist ideas. You are concrete bound. You go on and on about what other people think of you (i.e. you appear second handed). You argue this or that particular fact (by simply claiming your opponent is wrong and pointing to some internet article) but never address the reasoning that leads your opponent to his falsehood. For that matter, you never address your own reasoning.
            So what’s your story? How did you come to Objectivism? How long have you studied Objectivism? What books have you studied?

          • CitizenQuasar

            “You don’t address fundamentals.”
            You mean like the axioms that existence exists, I am conscious, and A is A? If you want me to address them then I will. The reason I have stated that I am an Objectivist is to distance myself from faithists, which includes both Muslims and Christains.

            “You don’t promote (or seem to even use) Objectivist ideas.”
            I promote reason as man’s only fundamental absolute and and I promote truth as an absolute.

            “You are concrete bound.”
            At least somebody here is familiar with Objectivist phraseology. The principles that I have discussed here are demonstrably NOT “concrete bound.” You are disregarding the fact that I am having to address specific point and it is my specificity that you are calling “concrete bound.” All of my posts are consistent in underlying principles. But I’m NOT perfect. Occasionally I make mistakes as I come and go on the internet posting snippets here and there.

            “You go on and on about what other people think of you (i.e. you appear second handed).”
            No, I do NOT. What I do is to defend myself from a continuing barrage of insults and defamations of character. If I was a second hander then I would be concerned about other people’s opinions of me, something I have NO control over. The fact that I am defending myself from unfounded insults and mischaracterizations is me exercising my RIGHT to self defense, a version of which is embodied in the Second Amendment (Have you “registered” your firearms yet, Mike Saenz?), and is me showing my high regard for truth.

            You argue this or that particular fact (by simply claiming your opponent is wrong and pointing to some internet article) but never address the reasoning that leads your opponent to his falsehood.
            Yes I do post my reasoning. Oh, wait a minute….linked to articles are one way to do that. The linked to articles contain facts that support my point of view. If you do NOT read them then that is you refusing to learn or consider all the facts.

            “For that matter, you never address your own reasoning.”
            Completely irrelevant. If there is an error in this statement then please tell me…reasonably.

            So what’s your story? How did you come to Objectivism? How long have you studied Objectivism? What books have you studied?

            I was given the book “The Virtue of Selfishness” by Ayn Rand in 1975. It seemed so much like common sense to me that I thought everybody thought that way. I was sorely mistaken.
            Seven years later, when I was a soldier and they refused to put ATHEIST on my dog tags, I reread that book and read others by her. I read all of her non-fiction that was available and thes included, in no particular order, “Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal,” “The New Left: The Anti-Industrial Revolution,” “For the New Intellectual,” “Introduction to Objectist Epistemology,” “Philosophy: Who Needs It.” I then read her fiction: “Atlas Shrugged”(7 times), “The Fountainhead”(4 times), Night of January 16th,” “Anthem,” “We the Living.” I have read all of her newsletter that I could get a hold of, which is most of them. I have listened to her audio lecture series. I presently own a copy of “The Ayn Rand Lexicon: Objectivism from A to Z.” I have read works by Leonard Piekoff including “The Ominous Parallels” and “Objectivism: The Philosophy of Ayn Rand.” ZI have read “Who is Ayn Rand” by Nathaniel and Barbara Branden. I have read “The Passion of Ayn Rand” and I have seen the movie. I once belonged to the Dallas Objectivist Society and I personally met John Ridpath and Mike Berlinner then. I also learned to HATE the Ayn Rand Instsitute.

        • Jerry

          We know why your camels are always smiling.

          • CitizenQuasar

            I don’t own any camels. Do you?

          • Jerry

            I meant Muslim camels in general. Sorry you couldn’t get it.

        • wri7913

          “Ultimately we (Muslims) can never be full citizens of this country… because there is no way we can be fully committed to the institutions and ideologies of this country”
          - Ihsan Bagby, a National Board Member of the controversial Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR)

          • CitizenQuasar

            Ihsan Bagby does NOT speak for all Muslims any more than the Pope speaks for all Christians.

            In WWII it was the Jews. Today it is the Muslims. It’s the exact same game plan for world domination.
            “Those who don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat it.” “If it ain’t broke then don’t fix it.”

        • wri7913

          “If we are practicing Muslims, we are above the law of the land,” said Mustafa Carroll, executive director of the Dallas-Fort Worth CAIR branch.

          • CitizenQuasar

            Mustafa Carroll does NOT speak for all Muslims any more than the Pope speaks for all Christians.

          • Jerry

            Try to go above the law against me sand sucker pig.

        • Ted Fiorito

          You’re an MSNBC Loon!

          • CitizenQuasar

            I NEVER watch MSNBC anymore than I watch Sean Hannity. What are you talking about?

      • seazen

        And this is an example of why we should all be proud to be Americans. Deep thought. Sound reasoning and a serious willingness to listen and to learn.

      • Mary

        FAUX NEWS is full of CRAP and your dumb enough to follow them

        • Tom Jones

          anybody who uses FAUX is an idiot. if you don’t believe what they are telling you it is because you are brainwashed, you are one of the heard of sheeple,, you are a dumbass, go ahead and watch NBC, CNN, MSNBC,ABC, YEAH, they tell the truth. GET REAL, GET INFORMED.And by the way, it’s you’re not your

    • Sulli159

      Oh come on; you name me one backlash that has occured against muslims since you have infliltrated into our country. Of course we patriots and Christians are going to oppose your barbaric islamic laws. We have seen how it works out for us infidels since 611 AD. You come into our country, build islamic centers and mosques which are just breeding grounds for waging jihad and implement Sharia law. You demand special privledges in the workplace, our schools and universities. You don’t want to assimulate into our laws and cultures, you want to force us to assimulate into yours and establish a dhmmitude. You go to your mosques and centers in peace in America, yet in every islamic country, Christians are being slaughtered, their Churches burned down, their property confiscated, people being raped and tortured. Every country where you reach a high percentage has turned into a war torned hell hole. And you plan to do that in America with the help of this obama admin-but some of us will never submit to your moon god, allah. I for one will die confessing my Savior the Lord God, Jesus, the Messiah and Creator of the Universe. Remember that when you raise your as* to mecca.

      • CitizenQuasar

        “Oh come on; you name me one backlash that has (sic)occured against (sic)muslims since you have (sic)infliltrated into our country.”
        I am NOT a Muslim. I am an Objectivist. The Christians have been needlessly attacking the Muslims since the time of the Crusades.

        “One?” The u.S has invaded Iraq under false premises, the U.S. has invaded Afghanistan under false premises…and increased world heroin production by over 900% now that the United States Army is running the poppy fields. (I have THRE Honorable Discharges from the American military.)

        “Of course we patriots and Christians are going to oppose your barbaric (sic)islamic laws.”
        Again, I am NOT a Muslim. I am an Objectivist, a student of Objectivism which is the philosophy of Ayn Rand.

        We have seen how it works out for us infidels since 611 AD.
        “The Christains have been needlessly attacking the Muslims since the time of the Crusades.”

        “You come into our country, build islamic centers and mosques which are just breeding grounds for waging jihad and implement Sharia law.”
        Again, I am NOT a Muslim. I am an Objectivist, a student of Objectivism which is the philosophy of Ayn Rand.

        “ You demand special privledges in the workplace, our schools and universities.”
        Again, I am NOT a Muslim. I am an Objectivist, a student of Objectivism which is the philosophy of Ayn Rand.

        “You don’t want to (sic)assimulate into our laws and cultures, you want to force us to (sic)assimulate into yours and establish a (sic)dhmmitude.”
        Again, I am NOT a Muslim. I am an Objectivist, a student of Objectivism which is the philosophy of Ayn Rand.

        “You go to your mosques and centers in peace in America, yet in every(sic)islamic country, Christians are being slaughtered, their Churches burned down, their property confiscated, people being raped and tortured.”
        Again, I am NOT a Muslim. I am an Objectivist, a student of Objectivism which is the philosophy of Ayn Rand.

        “Every country where you reach a high percentage has turned into a war (sic)torned hell hole.”
        Again, I am NOT a Muslim. I am an Objectivist, a student of Objectivism which is the philosophy of Ayn Rand.

        “And you plan to do that in America with the help of this (sic)obama admin-but some of us will never submit to your moon god, (sic)allah.”
        Again, I am NOT a Muslim. I am an Objectivist, a student of Objectivism which is the philosophy of Ayn Rand.

        “I for one will die confessing my Savior the Lord God, Jesus, the Messiah and Creator of the Universe. Remember that when you raise your as* to (sic)mecca.”
        You claim that you perceive a mode of being superior to my existence on this earth. The mystics of spirit call it “another dimension,” which consists of denying dimensions. To exist is to possess identity. What identity are you able to give to your superior realm? You keep telling me what it is not, but never tell you what it is. All your identifications consist of negating: God is that which no human mind can know, you say—and proceed to demand that I consider it knowledge—God is non-man, heaven is non-earth, soul is non-body, virtue is non-profit, A is non-A, perception is non-sensory, knowledge is non-reason. Your definitions are NOT acts of defining, but of wiping out.

        Every argument for God and every attribute ascribed to Him rests on a false metaphysical premise. None can survive for a moment on a correct metaphysics.
        Is God the creator of the universe? There can be no creation of something out of nothing. There is no nothing.
        Is God omnipotent? Can he do anything? Entities can act only in accordance with their natures; nothing can make them violate their natures.
        “God” as traditionally defined is a systematic contradiction of every valid metaphysical principle. The point is wider than just the Judeo-Christian concept of God. No argument will get you from this world to a supernatural world. No reason will lead you to a world contradicting this one. No method of inference will enable you to leap from existence to a “super-existence.”

        What is mysticism? Mysticism is the acceptance of allegations without evidence or proof, either apart from or against the evidence of one’s senses and one’s reason. Mysticism is the claim to some non-sensory, non-rational, non-definable, non-identifiable means of knowledge, such as “instinct,” “intuition,” “revelation,” or any form of “just knowing.”
        Reason is the perception of reality, and rests on a single axiom: the Law of Identity.
        Mysticism is the claim to the perception of some other reality—other than the one in which we live—whose definition is only that it is not natural, it is supernatural, and is to be perceived by some form of unnatural or supernatural means.

        The damnation of this earth as a realm where nothing is possible to man but pain, disaster and defeat, a realm inferior to another, “higher,” reality; the damnation of all values, enjoyment, achievement and success on earth as a proof of depravity; the damnation of man’s mind as a source of pride, and the damnation of reason as a “limited,” deceptive, unreliable, impotent faculty, incapable of perceiving the “real” reality and the “true” truth; the split of man in two, setting his consciousness (his soul) against his body, and his moral values against his own interest; the damnation of man’s nature, body and self as evil; the commandment of self-sacrifice, renunciation, suffering, obedience, humility and faith, as the good; the damnation of life and the worship of death, with the promise of rewards beyond the grave—these are the necessary tenets of the [mystic’s] view of existence, as they have been in every variant of [mystical] philosophy throughout the course of mankind’s history.

        To the mystic, as to an animal, the irreducible primary is the automatic phenomena of his own consciousness.
        An animal has no critical faculty; he has no control over the function of his brain and no power to question its content. To an animal, whatever strikes his awareness is an absolute that corresponds to reality—or rather, it is a distinction he is incapable of making: reality, to him, is whatever he senses or feels. And this is the [mystic’s] epistemological ideal, the mode of consciousness he strives to induce in himself. To the mystic, emotions are tools of cognition, and wishes take precedence over facts. He seeks to escape the risks of a quest for knowledge by obliterating the distinction between consciousness and reality, between the perceiver and the perceived, hoping that an automatic certainty and an infallible knowledge of the universe will be granted to him by the blind, unfocused stare of his eyes turned inward, contemplating the sensations, the feelings, the urgings, the muggy associational twistings projected by the rudderless mechanism of his undirected consciousness. Whatever his mechanism produces is an absolute not to be questioned; and whenever it clashes with reality, it is reality that he ignores.
        Since the clash is constant, the [mystic’s] solution is to believe that what he perceives is another, “higher” reality—where his wishes are omnipotent, where contradictions are possible and A is non-A, where his assertions, which are false on earth, become true and acquire the status of a “superior” truth which he perceives by means of a special faculty denied to other, “inferior,” beings. The only validation of his consciousness he can obtain on earth is the belief and the obedience of others, when they accept his “truth” as superior to their own perception of reality.

        A mystic is a man who surrendered his mind at its first encounter with the minds of others. Somewhere in the distant reaches of his childhood, when his own understanding of reality clashed with the assertions of others, with their arbitrary orders and contradictory demands, he gave in to so craven a fear of independence that he renounced his rational faculty. At the crossroads of the choice between “I know” and “They say,” he chose the authority of others, he chose to submit rather than to understand, to believe rather than to think. Faith in the supernatural begins as faith in the superiority of others. His surrender took the form of the feeling that he must hide his lack of understanding, that others possess some mysterious knowledge of which he alone is deprived, that reality is whatever they want it to be, through some means forever denied to him.
        From then on, afraid to think, he is left at the mercy of unidentified feelings. His feelings become his only guide, his only remnant of personal identity, he clings to them with ferocious possessiveness—and whatever thinking he does is devoted to the struggle of hiding from himself that the nature of his feelings is terror.
        When a mystic declares that he feels the existence of a power superior to reason, he feels it all right, but that power is not an omniscient super-spirit of the universe, it is the consciousness of any passer-by to whom he has surrendered his own. A mystic is driven by the urge to impress, to cheat, to flatter, to deceive, to force that omnipotent consciousness of others. “They” are his only key to reality, he feels that he cannot exist save by harnessing their mysterious power and extorting their unaccountable consent. “They” are his only means of perception and, like a blind man who depends on the sight of a dog, he feels he must leash them in order to live. To control the consciousness of others becomes his only passion; power-lust is a weed that grows only in the vacant lots of an abandoned mind.

        Galt’s Speech,
        For the New Intellectual, 160

        The motive of all the attacks on man’s rational faculty—from any quarter, in any of the endless variations, under the verbal dust of all the murky volumes—is a single, hidden premise: the desire to exempt consciousness from the law of identity. The hallmark of a mystic is the savagely stubborn refusal to accept the fact that consciousness, like any other existent, possesses identity, that it is a faculty of a specific nature, functioning through specific means. While the advance of civilization has been eliminating one area of magic after another, the last stand of the believers in the miraculous consists of their frantic attempts to regard identity as the disqualifying element of consciousness.
        The implicit, but unadmitted premise of the neo-mystics of modern philosophy, is the notion that only an ineffable consciousness can acquire a valid knowledge of reality, that “true” knowledge has to be causeless, i.e., acquired without any means of cognition.

        Mysticism requires the notion of the unknowable, which is revealed to some and withheld from others; this divides men into those who feel guilt and those who cash in on it. The two groups are interchangeable, according to circumstances. When being judged, a mystic cries: “I couldn’t help it!” When judging others, he declares: “You can’t know, but I can.”

        There is only one state that fulfills the mystic’s longing for infinity, non-causality, non-identity: death. No matter what unintelligible causes he ascribes to his incommunicable feelings, whoever rejects reality rejects existence—and the feelings that move him from then on are hatred for all the values of man’s life, and lust for all the evils that destroy it.

        The advocates of mysticism are motivated not by a quest for truth, but by hatred for man’s mind.

        For centuries, the mystics of spirit had existed by running a protection racket—by making life on earth unbearable, then charging you for consolation and relief, by forbidding all the virtues that make existence possible, then riding on the shoulders of your guilt, by declaring production and joy to be sins, then collecting blackmail from the sinners.

        I have said that faith and force are corollaries, and that mysticism will always lead to the rule of brutality. The cause of it is contained in the very nature of mysticism. Reason is the only objective means of communication and of understanding among men; when men deal with one another by means of reason, reality is their objective standard and frame of reference. But when men claim to possess supernatural means of knowledge, no persuasion, communication or understanding are possible. Why do we kill wild animals in the jungle? Because no other way of dealing with them is open to us. And that is the state to which mysticism reduces mankind—a state where, in case of disagreement, men have no recourse except to physical violence. And more: no man or mystical elite can hold a whole society subjugated to their arbitrary assertions, edicts and whims, without the use of force. Anyone who resorts to the formula: “It’s so, because I say so,” will have to reach for a gun, sooner or later. Communists, like all materialists, are neo-mystics: it does not matter whether one rejects the mind in favor of revelations or in favor of conditioned reflexes. The basic premise and the results are the same.

        Men have been taught either that knowledge is impossible (skepticism) or that it is available without effort (mysticism). These two positions appear to be antagonists, but are, in fact, two variants on the same theme, two sides of the same fraudulent coin: the attempt to escape the responsibility of rational cognition and the absolutism of reality—the attempt to assert the primacy of consciousness over existence.
        Although skepticism and mysticism are ultimately interchangeable, and the dominance of one always leads to the resurgence of the other, they differ in the form of their inner contradiction—the contradiction, in both cases, between their philosophical doctrine and their psychological motivation. Philosophically, the mystic is usually an exponent of the intrinsic (revealed) school of epistemology; the skeptic is usually an advocate of epistemological subjectivism. But, psychologically, the mystic is a subjectivist who uses intrinsicism as a means to claim the primacy of his consciousness over that of others. The skeptic is a disillusioned intrinsicist who, having failed to find automatic supernatural guidance, seeks a substitute in the collective subjectivism of others.

        • Sulli159

          I knew it, I just knew it; you were going to play the cookie cutter Crusade card.
          The Crusades were established to bring down one of the most brutal and savage kingdoms ever to exist on the face of the earth and have access to their Holy Land. Jerusalem is mentioned 600 times in the Bible and not once in the Koran..zero…
          .
          “I am NOT a Muslim. I am an Objectivist” you write
          Wow all that copy and paste rhetoric. If you are such an objectivist why don’t you go to the USA Coptic Christians protesting the persecutions by the muslim in Egypt?. You bad mouth Christians that the muslims invaded their countries and tried to wipe them out for 1400 years. Doesn’t sound very objectivist to me. Well Christians and Jews don’t slice people’s heads off when they get insulted. Oh by the way; with all do respect for Ms Rand, she was an atheist. And muslims hate atheist, so watch your back if you try to argue with a muslm about their “god”. Just sayin…..and don’t eat pork rinds while your there.

          • CitizenQuasar

            Objectivism is the philosophy of Ayn Rand. I copy and pasted it every time the person I was responding to addressed me as a Muslim. That you focus on the copy and paste as if that was an indicator of my intellect and mental acuity shows that you couldn’t care less about what the truth is. The same can be said for you pretending that Objectivism has something to do with protesting in Egypt. (Like I would go to Egypt anyway.) You are demonstrably only trying to detract from the truth and deceive as many people as you can.

            “You bad mouth Christians that the (sic)muslims invaded their countries and tried to wipe them out for 1400 years. Doesn’t sound very (sic)objectivist to me. Well Christians”
            Neither do Muslims except for George W. Bush’s Saudi Arab buddies whose cock he sucks. Or Al-CIA-DUH that the CIA funds. As for Christians, all one has to do is remember the Puritans in America, the Inquisition, or read the Buy-bull to see that Christianity is based on terrible bloodshed…NOT to mention a complete rejection of reason.

            “and Jews don’t slice people’s heads off when they get insulted.”
            The Jews crucify people.

            “Oh by the way; with all do respect for Ms Rand, she was an atheist.”
            Do many people know this?

            “And muslims hate atheist, so watch your back if you try to argue with a muslm about their “god”. Just sayin…..and don’t eat pork rinds while your there.”
            All religions hate atheists. Christians are the worst. My Nigerian Muslim roommate couldn’t care less about my atheism. However, the Christians in my neighborhood invite me to church and then are offended when I refuse to go and they then taunt me and tell me their loving god will torture me forever after I die…in the name of “love”…because I want at least one shred of proof that there is such an imaginary and magical being in existence.

            Yes the Crusades…AND the High Horses.

          • Sulli159

            oh speaking of Nigeria; glad to see you still have your head.
            Boko Haram, an Islamist sect seeking to impose Sharia throughout Nigeria, attacked three church services on Sunday, April 29, 2012. The latest slaughters added twenty-seven more dead to 900+ victims of the past two years’ efforts by Boko Haram to kill all the Christians in northern Nigeria. In recent months, the sect has also been marking the houses of Christians in the north, targeting them for killing, forcing thousands to flee from their homes.

            2013.08.22 (Aleppo, Syria) – A suicide bomber targets a group of youth celebrating a graduation at a restaurant, killing six.
            2013.08.22 (Dujail, Iraq) – A Sunni wades into a Shia wedding party and detonates a suicide vest, slaughtering at least nine.
            2013.08.22 (Farah, Afghanistan) – A child is disassembled by Religion of Peace hardline bombers.
            2013.08.21 (Tlemcen, Algeria) – A father and son are among a group of hunters decapitated by Islamic fundamentalists.
            2013.08.21 (Gamboru Ngala, Nigeria) – Islamic radicals lure four people out of their homes and then machine-gun them.
            2013.08.21 (Karachi, Pakistan) – A 46-year-old Ahmadi is shot dead outside his home along with a neighbor by Sunni purists.

            Weekly Jihad Report

            Aug 10 – Aug 16
            Jihad Attacks: 53
            Allahu Akbars*: 3
            Dead Bodies: 351
            Critically Injured: 1016

          • CitizenQuasar

            Is that what the government licensed media is putting out? What about the Jews? They are committing genocide on their neighbors. Wny doesn’t the government licensed media report on that. Also, I daily see where the CIA is caught financing and orchestrating many of the “Muslim” attacks. Though I haven’t investigated the particulars, I strongly suspect that the CIA is behind these.

            I learned about the CIA when I was very young and they blew the President of the United States’ head off in the middle of a city street in broad daylight and they got away with it.

            Here is a little about the (fake) “Muslim” bombing in Boston (Just because it’s handy.): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdY3U5XR6lI

          • kT TK

            Wherever muslims seize power in the world, they destroy everything that is good and turn the place into a totalitarian third world hellhole

          • CitizenQuasar

            Sounds kind of like what the Christians did in Iraq and Afghanistan. I’ll bet you don’t know that the Muslim Brotherhood was founded by Nazis…Christians. I’ll also bet that you don’t know that the Central Intelligence Agency runs Al Queida.

            If you will look around yourself you will see that the American government, a corporation actually, is turning the United States into a 3rd world hell hole. When they stage a big enough false flag then there will be soldiers and tanks on our streets. You will probably go out and lick their boots because you think you are free but you are NOT. You are being played by the government licensed corporate media.

          • nash786

            Many of these movements like boko haram are ignorant about islam e.g. boko haram means western education is illegal. Yet the prohet muhammed said the following: (1) seek knowledeg from the cradle to the grave; (2) knowledeg is incumbent om both male and female; (3) seek knowledge from here unto china. The war against the west by al qaeda is for 2 reasons stated by none other trhan OBL: (1) war to kick out western bases from saudi arabia and other muslim countries; (2) to destroy the apartheid state of israel. Unless these objectives are met, this war will continue for decades and this will drain the west like it drained the war fought by the Romans against the barbarians

          • CitizenQuasar

            Thank you for your input. I liked the part about Muhammed.

            There are over a billion Muslims on this planet. It is difficult for me to fathom how some people are so stupid to think that over a billion people Muslims want to kill Christians. Most Muslims are Muslims for the same reason that most Christians are Christians and this is because their mamas raised them that way and almost everybody around them beleive the same thing. And most Muslims take only the good peaceful teachings of Islam just like most Christians only take the good peaceful teachings of Christianity.

            As for Alqueda: It is a creature of the CIA and is financed and armed by the American war machine. It will be there, sometimes against the United States and sometimes allied with the United States, until it is no longer needed as a scapegoat or an instigator until either the New World Order is destroyed or until America is finally conquered from within by its own government.

          • CitizenQuasar

            Let us NOT forget about the US drone strikes in Yemen, the U.S. military increasing world heroin production by 900% since the Army took over the poppy fields in Afghanistan. Let’s also NOT forget that the United States government did 9/11 killing upwards of 3,000 Americans on American soil. Let’s also NOT forget Operation Ajax where the CIA overthrew the lawfully elected iranian government in 1953 and installed the Shah…a torturing dictator. Let’s also NOT forget Israel trying to sink the uSS Liberty in 1967 intending to blame it on Egypt and the President of the United States going right along with it. Let us also NOT forget the staged Gulf of Tonkin incident used to “justify” America’s involvement in Vietnam which resulted in America’s defeat and 58,000+ dead Americans.

            …And even if the incidents that you list are real and true, and it looks like a couple of them are, what happens in foreign lands is NOT any of America’s business.

          • KnowI’mLucky

            You hide in your little room and spew this nonsense that seems to make sense to you. As you talk about America I find myself wondering if you live here. If you do, I hope you appreciate the liberties that you enjoy and just how they came to be. My family has lost 9 since WWI and I understand the sacrifices that were made for this freedom that many are now taking for granted. Be very prepared for the unforeseen backlash that responds to the cowardice attacks of any terrorist group. Just stay in your room and pound away.

          • CitizenQuasar

            “You hide in your little room and spew
            this nonsense that seems to make sense to you.”

            Everything I post can be independently
            verified as factual. It’s just that you willfully refuse to do it.

          • CitizenQuasar

            “As you talk about America I find
            myself wondering if you live here.”

            I was born in Texas. I live in Oklahoma.

            “My family has lost 9 since WWI and I
            understand the sacrifices that were made for this freedom that many are now
            taking for granted.”

          • CitizenQuasar

            My family has lost 9 since WWI and I
            understand the sacrifices that were made for this freedom that many are now taking for granted.”

            My family has been in America since
            1630. We were fighting in wars here before the American Revolution and we have fought in every war since. I have ancestors on BOTH sides of the Civil War. My dad fought in Korea, my cousins fought in Vietnam. I have three Honorable Discharges from the United States military myself. So don’t you, “KnowI’mLucky,” come at me with that holier than thou “lost 9 since WWI” stuff.

          • CitizenQuasar

            “I hope you appreciate the liberties
            that you enjoy and just how they came to be.”

            I DO and I am well aware of the fact
            that an active and coordinated military style takeover of the United States of America is well under way. It is my concern about this that has me typing this response to you right now.

            It is the same game plan used in WW II
            Nazi Germany. In the Nuremberg Trials after WWII, Nazi leader Hermann Goring said:

            “”Naturally the common people
            don’t want war: Neither in Russia,
            nor in England, nor for that
            matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY.”

            This is exactly what I see happening on
            today. The Jews were the scapegoat then and the Muslims are the scapegoat now. Do a little research.

          • CitizenQuasar

            “Be very prepared for the unforeseen
            backlash that responds to the cowardice attacks of any terrorist group. Just stay in your room and pound away.”

            This is an obvious threat and this
            shows that you have NO regard for freedom of speech NOR for freedom of the press and that you would just as soon initiate the use of physical force against me simply because, in your self imposed ignorance, you disagree with me. You threat is the very definition of a violation of my rights. This is as
            un-American as it gets.

            Any time rekcufrehtom, anytime. You
            just bring it on. Punk.

          • nash786

            When the crusaders conquered jerusalem, they slaughtered everyone, muslim, jew and christian. When muslims retook jerusalem, they divide jerusalem into 4 quarters, one for jews, one for muslim and and 2 for christians. When Jews took jersusalem in 1967, they have systematically ethnically cleansed jerusalem and soon it will be a jewish zone. As for atheists, the quran clearly says “there is no compulsion in religion”. Those people who chop peoples heads off do so due to ignorance of the tenets of islam.

          • Ted Fiorito

            You’re a fool who know’s nothing of History. Start with the Battle Of Tours and the Islamic CRUADE.

        • Eric Goodman

          Wow, that certainly was a mouthful. Did you come up with all of this by yourself? You mock those with faith because you compare it to mysticism. News flash-many of the accepted sciences of today were mocked as little as 100 years ago. That is likely to repeat itself in another 100 years. Those who preach science is absolute are sticking their heads in the sand to be able to stand by their argument; we accept science as fact because we have faith that the science is absolute.

          • CitizenQuasar

            “You mock those with faith because you compare it to mysticism.”

            I do NOT “mock” those with faith but, instead, I properly identify their thought process as being a willful rejection of reason, reason being that faculty which integrates the evidence of the senses. Believing something based on faith IS mysticism.

            “News flash-many of the accepted sciences of today were mocked as little as 100 years ago. That is likely to repeat itself in another 100 years. Those who preach science is absolute are sticking their heads in the sand to be able to stand by their argument;”

            Science is absolute because science is the application of reason to existence and reason is an absolute, reason is mankind’s ONLY absolute. The fact that errors are made in the reasoning process that is science does NOT negate reason. Nor the scientific process.

            Science does NOT say that every piece of knowledge ever collected is true and factual. Science merely says that every piece of knowledge may be tested for truth or falsity whenever and wherever one decides to. Faith offers NO such chek or verification.

            “we accept science as fact because we have faith that the science is absolute.”

            We do NOT accept science on faith, faith being belief in something with zero evidence of the senses to support that evidence or even being against the evidence of the senses. We accept science because its processes are reproducible by anyone so they can verify or disprove any given conclusion at any given time. Faith, on the other hand, is believing in something simply because somebody (else) says so.

            You faithists are ALL alike. It’s the same old stale and easily disproven tripe that you throw out every time as justification for NOT using reason. Yours is a variation of the old “reason is a form of faith” fallacy.

      • Hargraves Ian

        but you forget our beloved arsehole president is a muslim. mULLER oBAMA!

        • Sulli159

          Sorry; never forget

    • Guest

      QuaQua your full of it. I read the participants w/AMPAC & MAMAF & this is nothing more than yet another Bolshevik Marxist Leninist bunch of rubbish. It’s packed w/Democrap this & Democrap that. Oh & let’s not forget the OWS Movement. You imbeciles have also tried to include other issues like anti-Drone & anti-NDAA to try & get as many people to show up. But, it’s all the same to someone like me that can see right thru this whole thing. FACE: It’s yet another Hot & Bothered Urge push by the Old & Wealthy Trotskyite, Bolshevik, Marxist, Leninists to get their desired Red Army to get a New Red Terror & HOLODOMOR committed this time upon the American Gentiles. Professor Ruth Milkman exposed WHO the OWS movement Organizers really were. White (Bolshevik) Guys with Ivy League Educations, working only 35 hours a week if that to make over $100,000 & Up per year. I noticed also that Farrahkhan is gonna’ show. Bunch of Loony Bolsheviks.
      I can’t wait to see the videos of VLADIMIR JAFFE on Youtube after this. He has tons of videos exposing you idoits.

      • CitizenQuasar

        Jack Blood
        Mark Koernke
        Michael Rivero
        Alex Jones

        are ALL more truthful than Sean Insannity, Mush Limburger and his Urine-In-Bottle microphone, See BS, See No News, In BS, All BS, and all the other GOVERNMENT LICENSED propaganda outlets that are owned by the Council on Foreign Relations, the outfit that finances the Communists that you pretend to be against.

        Believe whatever you want to.

        • Sulli159

          Oh your shrilling Alex Jones. 9/11 bunch of commies and islamis are just existing to take the heat off the muslim terrorists. it has been debunked by so many “experts” so many times. What is it about the Al Qaeda and bin laden boasting that they did it don’t you understand? Suiicide, stealing and hijacking airplanes and blowing up someone else’s property and murdering people are their MOs. We are know about the NWO gurus and organizations and we don’t approve of them either. Just a Jones red herring and wagging the dog. The NWO is using the islamic community to bring about chaos and stir up communities in sovereign countries.

          • CitizenQuasar

            Oh your shrilling Alex Jones.
            I listed FOUR newsmen and I placed Alex Jones LAST in this list and the ONLY one you acknowledge is Alex Jones.
            What about Jack Blood?
            What about Michael Rivero?
            What about Mrk Koernke?
            And what is the matter with Alex Jones anyway. Among the many many people I have heard Alex Jones interview on his show are are Charlie Daniels and Willy Nelson, Joe Rogan, Jesse Ventura, Ron Paul, as well as the father of one of the members of SEAL Team Six explaining how they were murdered by the American military.

            “9/11 bunch of commies and islamis are just existing to take the heat off the (sic)muslim terrorists.” it has been debunked by so many “experts” so many times.”
            Debunk this: http://www.drjudywood.com/

            “What is it about the Al Qaeda and bin laden boasting that they did it don’t you understand?”
            Osama bin Laden, who died over a decade ago, denied any involvement with 9/11 and the FBI NEVER charged him with such a crime. All-CIA-DUH is financed and armed by the American government and this is mainline news.

          • Mlm46

            “Osama bin Laden, who died over a decade ago” Really?

          • CitizenQuasar
          • Mlm46

            That is not really proof but what does this have to do with the Million Man whatever you want to call it protest?

          • CitizenQuasar

            What do you want? A body? Oh, that’s right….the “body” was dumped in the ocean. And SEAL Team 6, the one who did the fake raid, is conveniently dead now.

          • CitizenQuasar

            In any case, you can, without too much difficulty, track down my sources on this and vet them yourself. If you will take a moment and consider their credentials then you will see that they are far more respectable than being a mere teleprompter reader like Sean Hannity.

          • Mlm46

            Who’s the biggest teleprompter reader? NOT Hannity, Barack Obama! Where is your proof that Hannity is such a liar? There is a lot of misinformation out there and it is not just FOX but also CNN, MSNBC, etc. There is also a lot or very radical radio programs and web sites from some whose credentials are very suspect!

          • Mlm46

            I am no government shill! I have many doubts of the “bin Laden killing” and this present administrations involvement. You are automatically believing that he was killed 10 years ago and take that as the truth but ignore others who believe differently from you as having their heads in the sand. The truth may never be known about this and a lot of other things but that have been going on lately but it won’t get solved with either side calling each other names and questioning each others intelligence! There are a lot of unnecessary remarks being said here. I can see different views but I can also see the BS! You say you are not a Muslim, but put down other religions as make believe. So that would include ALL religions. Also, I am not a particularly religious person, but respect others that are, but you have not said anything in the defense of the slaughter of Christian’s and their churches in Muslim countries. Aren’t they allowed to exist? Are we doing that here in the US (not talking about the lone wackos that try to bomb or burn a mosque)? Where is the fairness in that?

          • CitizenQuasar

            It is tragic that Muslims are killing
            Christians in some foreign countries. I am against ALL religions, including
            Islam, because they are based on faith which is the rejection of reason and
            they are all superstitions that require magic and magical beings for them to
            work. I prefer just plain old reason and what I know is true.

            I see the “War on Terror” as being
            orchestrated, primarily from Washington
            DC and the licensed corporate media. I see Sean Hannity as one of the ring leaders of the corporate media. He,
            like the rest of the government shills, ALWAYS toes the government line….even though the government changes its story time and time again.

            I ended up posting here accidentally
            when Infowars subscribed to DISQUS to handle its comments. I am surprised how many people here believe the official (ever changing) government propaganda and are so Unwilling to consider anything else.

            I have some work to do so I may be gone for a while. I may not come back here.

          • Mike Tomei

            If you’re going to march on the perpetrators of 911 don’t forget to march on Cheney and Bushes house. And I thought this was a fishing forum not a political site. Am I wrong?,Cause Im sick of listing to you ignorant red neck crackers on the other sites. can we keep this to fishing? than You

          • CitizenQuasar

            I was posting on http://www.infowars.com. Infowars changed its commenting from their direct oversee to DISQUS. I was new to DISQUS and I didn’t know it shows all the other sites that Infowars posters post on and I posted a comment responding to someone else’s post thinking that I was still on Infowars and I ended up here.

            The article here is entitled “Bikers organize massive counter protest to Million Muslim March.”

            This is a “fishing forum?” Are you sure?

          • Mlm46

            I also find that the deaths of the SEAL Team 6 very questionable and abhorrent! It is very strange and convenient that they inevitably were silenced! This was to be the most transparent administration but it has been everything but!

          • CitizenQuasar

            According to one of their fathers, there were a lot of contradictions with the official story and a lot of questionable goings on surrounding the whole thing. The families of SEAL Team 6 are seeking a Congressional investigation into the incident.

          • Mlm46

            Well, well, do we agree here? I hope they find out the truth, but this might be bigger than anyone can imagine. Let’s be fair, there are a lot of inconsistencies in what’s being put out there and there may never be any truthful answers, but I still believe in the United States and what it stands for. There are many sources of info but we cannot believe any one exclusively and I don’t, I like to hear all points and make my own mind up.May not agree with most or some but it is my opinion, you may not agree but at least we are free to be able to discus this here!

          • CitizenQuasar

            Yes. We agree…I think.

            For over a quarter of a century I have been watching the conspiracy to take over the world unfold. It has been going on for generations and generations, centuries and millenia.

            What we see going on today must be examined from many different viewpoints. I stumbled onto this web page and I saw commentors that are uninformed, close minded, and full of hate–which the Powers That Be play to their advantage.

            Sean Hannity is one of their Henchmen and I sought to awaken some of those somnabulized by him (and others) that he is NOT giving them the truth and that they should broaden their intake of data points.

            I tried.

            “Thank you for listening and I hope we passed the audition.”
            —Paul McCartney

          • Mlm46

            Well, I can’t say that I agree completely with you, there is definitely something underfoot, and it may not be what we can agree on but it was certainly interesting going back and forth with you. I found it stimulating and we can agree to disagree, thanks for your responses even if one of us is misinformed! We can argue that aplenty!

    • Mlm46

      Not even one person should be killed by terrorism. Lightning strikes are considered “an act of God” and a force of nature. Terrorism is a despicable act by so called “humans”! Enjoy your koolade!

      • CitizenQuasar

        There is NO such thing as gods nor any other mystical magical imaginary creatures. As far as imagination goes, the overwhelming evidence is that the so called “War on Terror” was conceived on American soil and is being conducted and orchestrated by elements of the American government. If you are truly concerned about stopping terrorism, then you will seek to stop its root and that has little or nothing to do with Islam.

        However, I strongly suspect that you have NO intention of seeking the truth . I suspect that you are psychologically comfortable with you TV and your sports and your potato chips and beer…and you are quite content having an easily identifiable target for your hate and being manipulated by the likes of Sean Hannity.

        Enjoy YOUR Kool-Aid.

        • Mlm46

          Now I know what a phony you really are! Your angst against religious people (they have just as much right to believe in their religion as you have not to believe) is very telling. Quasar, you are filled with too much hate and it is coming through with these posts. You have absolutely no idea anything about me, and could never fathom, so keep your stereotyping to yourself and try to keep your hatred under check!

          • CitizenQuasar

            Now I know what a phony you really are! Your angst against religious people (they have just as much right to believe in their religion as you have not to believe) is very telling.
            It is NOT “angst,” it is sadness and disgust. ALL religions are superstitions much like NO different from belief in Santa Claus or the Tooth Fairy or the Flying Spaghetti monster. If someone wants to believe in superstitions than, yes, that is their rights and, NO, I never ever said NOR implied that it isn’t their right. Also, some supersrtitions do have a FEW good ideas…such as the Golden Rule.

            What my beef is with is that all religions unite in their steadfast support of faith, which is the rejection of reason. A man who has NO faith who acknowledges occasional errors in my reasoning but always adhers to reason, I see the rejection of reason and its resultant psychological damge as being detrimental to mankind.

            “ Quasar, you are filled with too much hate and it is coming through with these posts.”
            Here you are continuing your intentional deception, your ONLY tool of “persuasion” and this is easily proven true by a simple glance back over my other posts and the responses to them as you will see that they are ALL pretty well reasoned and you will see that this is in response to, as many times as not, po=rofanity and name calling…and you accuse me of having anger issues. Pffftt!

            “You have absolutely no idea anything about me, and could never fathom, so keep your stereotyping to yourself and try to keep your hatred under check!”
            What I DO know about you is what you write here in response to my posts. If you want me to know more then tell me more. However, if you want to just post a snippet or two and you don’t like the conclusions that I draw from these and then you refuse to expand on these snippets and yet you use this refusal of you to provide clarification as some sort of moral sanction then that is very telling about you too.

    • Kenneth Clark

      Ohhhhhh Plllllleeeeaaaaaassssseeee!!!!

      How much middle eastern opium have you smoked today?

      • CitizenQuasar

        Here is the link: http://mamaf.webs.com/

        I can lead a horse to water but I can make it drink.

        Non. How much alcohol have you consumed today. Watch any TV?

    • KnowI’mLucky

      You are the most intelligent Objectivist I’ve ever encountered but let’s get one thing clear. Like it or not, those who perpetrated the attacks of 9-11 were muslim with a small m. Cowards 1 and all. If you really look closely, they actually weren’t that intelligent either. So smarten up on that issue and do your cult proud. Meanwhile, give those boney, dirty little fingers a rest and hit the showers. Now I’m heading out with the other physicians to ride my chopper.

      • CitizenQuasar

        “You are the most intelligent Objectivist I’ve ever encountered…”
        You mean you have actually encountered another one? Or is that just some kind of empty remark?

        The Muslims did NOT commit the atrocities of 9/11 and there is ZERO evidence that they did. If you are hanging with physicians then that implies that you have some smarts and are NOT easily duped.

        I know that physicians had chemistry in college and so I know they one and all, at leas tintuitively, know that kerosene based jet fuel doesn’t get hot enough to melt steel . otherwise kerosene lanterns and stoves would melt. You are contradicting yourself in that you are claiming an above average intelligence and yet you want me to believe that 19 whacked out Muslims with box cutters led by a man on kidney dialysis with a laptop computer in a cave in Afghanistan successfully attacked the Pentagon and took over four American airliners full of people and they flew around in American airspace for hours without being intercepted by the USAF even once and then they burned down the WTCs with kerosene base jet fuel.

        That’s the most ridiculous “conspiracy theory” I have ever heard. Worse, the government changed the story about what happened at least five different times.

        The story of what happened on 9/11 and the book length amount of evidence is to much to post here. You want look at it anyway because your mind is made up based on your gvoernment manipulated emotions and so you will NOT examine facts. So I’ll just post a couple of links.

        LINK: http://www.drjudywood.com/
        LINK: http://www.citizeninvestigationteam.com/nsa.html

    • Pablo

      Lightning is a natural, irresistible phenomenon. Jihad is not.

      • CitizenQuasar

        This is irrelevant as it is NOT the cause of the event but the probability of it happening to you that is relevant. You are being intentionally deceptive according to Oklahoma state law 76OS3.3 to wit: “A deceit…is the suggestion…of other facts which are likely to mislead.”

        Just as you have been deceived by Sean Hannity and the government licensed corporate media (owned by only five corporations when it was hundreds in my youth), so it is by deception that you try to make your case and win debates.

    • Matthew West

      You can put lipstick on a pig,…but it is still a pig!

      • CitizenQuasar

        Aren’t you the wise man? There is NO SUCH THING AS A MILLION MUSLIM MARCH. It is the Million American March Against Fear. I heard Dr. Kevin Barrett, the National Spokesman, interviewed by Michael Rivero on What Really Happened. It was good to hear it straight from the horses mouth..with call-ins no less. This act on the part of Michael Rivero is what journalism is supposed to be all about. People like Sean Hannity, who intentionally deceive their audiences in order to stir up divisiveness in American society and who play Twilight Zone music over anybody who gets through their call screeners and does NOT toe the official party propaganda line, are the biggest of hypocrits. Your little witticism does NOT make this march against the fear that the government wants Americans to feel because of the fake War on Terror, that is demonstrably being orchestrated by the criminals that have taken over the American government itself into a March of Muslims, a religion with over one billion adherents, that the government is making into scapegoats just like Hitler did with the Jews.

        “Why of course the people don’t want war. Why should some poor slob on
        a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of
        it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people
        don’t want war neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in
        Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the
        country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to
        drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist
        dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no
        voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders.
        That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked,
        and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the
        country to danger. It works the same in any country.”

        —Hermann Goering at the Nuremberg trials.

        If you want to see “lipstick on a pig” then I suggest you go look in a mirror.

        • Matthew West

          He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.

    • wayne

      Uhhh… the only reason why there hasn’t been a wholesale slaughter on American’s under sharia law by the Muslims is because they haven’t got a foothold in America.
      Because of people like these bikers and MILLIONS of AMERICANS with guns that hold these demons from hell at bay. Look at Britain you imbecile. Look at Sweden and France. Shake your head and get the stupid out. Once Islam is established in America we will go to hell in a hand basket like ALL Muslim countries. ISLAM IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH WESTERNIZED IDEOLOGIES AND CULTURES. WE ARE DIFFERENT.

      • CitizenQuasar

        “Uhhh… the only reason why there hasn’t been a wholesale slaughter on American’s under sharia law by the Muslims is because they haven’t got a foothold in America. “

        There has already been wholesale slaughter of Americans by the government of America on 9/11/2001.

        http://www.drjudywood.com/
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bITl3lmbWb8
        http://www.citizeninvestigationteam.com/nsa.html

        Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” Well here is a blast from the past:

        “Why of course the people don’t want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don’t want war neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”

        —Hermann Goering on April 18, 1946 at the Nuremberg trials.

        In WWII the scapegoat of the German government was the Jews.
        In WWIII the scapegoat of the American government is the Muslims.

        “Demons from hell”

        I have personally known people from Saudi Arabia, Iran, Pakistan, and Afghanistan. My Muslim roommate is from Nigeria. I speak from direct first hand eye witness personal experience.

        You speak from second hand experience, from hearsay (which is NOT admissible in American courts of law), from unreasoned emotive ejaculation, from the ignorance of a complete lack of street wisdom.

        It is people like you who, instead of doing all they can to seek the truth and to be informed, willfully ignore the truth because you find it disturbing and you don’t like to be disturbed. You and a bunch of stupid bikers who are going to willfully and hatefully (as in FULL OF HATE) disrupt the American March Against Fear.

        Well, when tyranny comes to America, and it has already made great inroads with things like the TSA and the DHS (which has already bought over a billion rounds of ammunition, the TSA alone having bought enough for every TSA agent they have to fire over 6,000 rounds each day for a year and NOT run out of ammo), and military urban warfare exercises going on all over the place on Mainstreet USA, your refusal to examine and acknowledge the facts will NOT protect you.

        BTW: Do you fly on airlines? If you do then do you stand idly by while TSA agents grope your wife or girlfriend’s crotch (not to mention those of your daughters), take your children into the other room and strip search them away from your presence, when they grab and squeeze your testicles? Does this make you feel safe? Does this sound like freedom to you?

        Your willful refusal to examine evidence, your willful refusal to even look at anything that doesn’t agree with what you get from the government licensed corporate media (owned by only five corporations) shows that you are NOT interested in the truth but that you are hiding from it. You are rationalizing.
        Since an emotion is experienced as an immediate primary, but is, in fact, a complex, derivative sum, it permits men to practice one of the ugliest of psychological phenomena: rationalization. Rationalization is a cover-up, a process of providing one’s emotions with a false identity, of giving them spurious explanations and justifications—in order to hide one’s motives, not just from others, but primarily from oneself. The price of rationalizing is the hampering, the distortion and, ultimately, the destruction of one’s cognitive faculty. Rationalization is a process not of perceiving reality, but of attempting to make reality fit one’s emotions.

    • nicknirm

      Just Shut Up.

      • CitizenQuasar

        No.

    • Bill Hurley

      Muslims need not be in America,We Americans Believe in God,America was Founded on the Word of God,you Muslims need to go Push your Camel ButterMilk in a Country that has Beliefs in Islam

      • CitizenQuasar

        ‘Muslims need not be in America,We Americans Believe in God,America was Founded on the Word of God,you Muslims need to go Push your Camel ButterMilk in a Country that has Beliefs in Islam”

        The First Amendment to the United States Constitution says: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof…” and since the Constitution is the supreme law of the land then it is apparent that there is NOTHING in the law that supports your position that Muslims are unwelcome in the United States because of their beliefs.

        Let us see what Colonial American history tells us. We don’t have to look very far to find “Treaty of Peace and Friendship between the United States of America and the Bey and Subjects of Tripoli of Barbary.” Signed at Tripoli on November 4, 1796 and at Algiers (for a third-party witness) on January 3, 1797, it was submitted to the Senate by President John Adams, receiving ratification unanimously from the U.S. Senate on June 7, 1797 and signed by Adams, taking effect as the law of the land on June 10, 1797.

        The treaty was a routine diplomatic agreement but has attracted later attention because the English version included a clause about religion in the United States:

        “As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion,—as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen [Muslims],—and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan [Mohammedan] nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.”
        —John Adams, second President of the United States

        “But…but…but…I mean…uh…It was Christian principles that America was founded on.”
        Will Thomas Jefferson do? (There are others.):

        “But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.”
        –Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782

        “Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity.”
        –Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782

        “Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call to her tribunal every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a god; because, if there be one, he must approve the homage of reason rather than of blind-folded fear. Do not be frightened from this inquiry by any fear of its consequences…. If it end in a belief that there is no god, you will find incitements to virtue in the comfort and pleasantness you feel in its exercise and in the love of others it will procure for you.”
        –Thomas Jefferson, to Peter Carr, August 10, 1787

        “The common law existed while the Anglo-Saxons were yet pagans, at a time when they had never yet heard the name of Christ pronounced or knew that such a character existed.”
        –Thomas Jefferson, letter to Major John Cartwright, June 5, 1824

        “It is between fifty and sixty years since I read it [the Book of Revelation], and I then considered it merely the ravings of a maniac, no more worthy nor capable of explanation than the incoherencies of our own nightly dreams.”
        –Thomas Jefferson, letter to General Alexander Smyth, January 17, 1825

        It was to protect American society from the Christians that the First Amendment was put into the Constitution. A good example is the Puritans who tortured and killed people who disagreed with them.

        I could go on and in more depth but it would be pointless as It is obvious that you are a hypocrite and a bigot.

      • CitizenQuasar

        “Push your Camel ButterMilk in a Country that has Beliefs in Islam”
        Did you know that George Washington had a camel at Mount Vernon?

  • Repubtallygirl

    Wish I could go….God Bless!

    • DmitryFloridian

      Ditto!

  • Ted Fiorito

    Ride those Harleys over the Muslim Brotherhood and Liberals who support them!

    • Tom Jones

      I prefer steamrollers

    • CitizenQuasar

      Bikers are about the stupidest breed of human around.

      • SUGAR

        I very seriously doubt that…Most bikers are doctors, lawyers, a lot of business owners, that just love to ride. Most that I know have Master, Bachelor, and Associate Degrees. And you by chance have what kind of education? So the only person that I see being stupid is you by throwing around name calling. At least we have the will and the support of all of our biker brothers and sisters to carry out what most wish they could do and that is stand up for our country. And what are you going to do to show support that day? Watch television? Most of them men and women have served and sacrificed for the love of our country, so show some respect…

        • CitizenQuasar

          “So the only person that I see being stupid is you by throwing around name calling.”
          I was referring to the quintessential tough guy biker who wears his colors into goes to bars. This type of person is incredibly stupid and possesses the kind of intellect that would follow a lie like pretending that Muslimas are responsible for 9/11 (And even if they were then that would ONLY be 19 of them and NOT the entire religion of over 1,000,000,000 people)…and crashing a demonstration for Americans Against Fear while pretending it is a demonstration by Muslims against American World War.

          The fact that you do NOT know any bikers like this shows a complete lack of street smarts on your part and a lack of knowledge about bikers in general.

          Those highly educated bikers who belong to bike clubs instead of gangs surely possess enough mental acuity that they will realize that Sean Hannity is lying through his teeth when Sean portrays this American March Against Fear as a Muslim March; NOT that there is anything the matter with a Muslim march.

          “And what are you going to do to show support that day?”
          The same thing I do to stand up for our country that I do every day. I spread the truth on the internet for those who seek truth to see…and for those who hate truth, like the United States government and its propaganda shills like Sean Hannity alike.

          “Watch television?”
          I don’t even own a television.

          “Most of them men and women have served and sacrificed for the love of our country,”
          I have THRE honorable discharges. How many do you have?

          “so show some respect…”
          I am showing all the respect deserved. Our country has been taken over by murdering criminals and genocidal maniacs who have started World War III. It is my patriotic duty to wake up and inform as many of the sleeping masses as I can in this Amerika’s time of need.

          • Sulli159

            But you were referring to ALL bikers in your statement. I guess it’s typical of this obama flip floppers; you were against it before you were for it and now you are for it before you were against it. There aren’t too many conservative that support obama’s illegal wars in Africa and now Syria. He is out to help the muslims establish a world caliphate under Sharia Law

          • CitizenQuasar

            “But you were referring to ALL bikers in your statement.”
            I was referring to the IMAGE of bikers as tough guys. The tough ones are dumber than dirt. The smart ones, the doctors and lawyers, I don’t think will be taken in by Hannity’s lies. However, I conced that you got me on this one.

            “I guess it’s typical of this obama flip floppers;”
            Obama, whose father was Frank Marshall Davis, is a puppet of the New World Order and I would like to see him executed for treason…along with a lot fo others.

          • CitizenQuasar

            Besides, don’t you see? OIC: You don’t WANT to see.

            What is going on is that government shills like Sean Hannity are trying to divide American society by using their lies and telling you that the American March Against Fear is against American principles while at the same time encouraging a bunch of rowdy dumb-assed bikers to go and interrupt it. Then all the equation needs is the standard proven government provocateur, on either side, to fire off a pistol. Then we have the beginnings of the civil war that the government is seeking so martial law can be justified and paramilitary and military people can take over our streets.

            Pull your head out of your ass.

        • Sulli159

          CQ doesn’t even write or talk like an American. Must be that brain washing and indoctrination in propaganda college he talks about. After all, he should of learned some English Comp in grade school.

      • Ted Fiorito

        They are above Muslims! You don’t see Bikers strapping explosives on their backs.

        • CitizenQuasar

          Most bikers I have met are dumber than dirt while most Muslims I have met are intelligent and considerate people.

          • The Aryan

            Most muslims I know would like to kill me because I’m an infidel according to the Koran!

          • Jerry

            Then why don’t you move to a Muslim country?

          • CitizenQuasar

            Why? What would be the point?

          • Jerry

            You think there way of life is so great.

          • Sulli159

            Then America would be rid of at least one of the likes of you.

          • CitizenQuasar

            My men have lived in America since 1620, my surname since 1630. My ancestors conquered and settle America and helped found the United States. My ancestors fought on both sides of the American Civil War. There has been a soldier in every generation since coming here and I am the one in this generation. I have three honorable discharges from the United States military. My wife was a native American, a Congeree.

            And YOU want to uhh…uhh… “be rid of the likes of” me simply because I pursue truth and defend rights and because (Here it comes) I am NOT stupid enough to be taken in by the government orchestrated “War on Terror” and I am NOT stupid enough to think Islam, practiced by over a billion people, is the enemy of America. If anybody is an enemy of America it is YOU.

          • Sulli159

            Please, yes move that guy to some islamic hell hole.

          • Jerry

            He will eventually put his self there.

          • Rmic

            Somehow I think that you’d be afraid to meet a biker. But anyhow thanks for drawing on your vast reservoir of knowledge and human interaction to share your brilliant analysis with us.

          • CitizenQuasar

            I have met a lot of bikers. This is how I know most of them are dumber than a box of rocks.

          • Jerry

            Change your towel once in a while too.

          • CitizenQuasar

            Change your diaper once in a while.

          • Jerry

            I don’t wear one. Do you?

          • Ted Fiorito

            Bikers don’t practice Sharia Law, Muslims do!

          • CitizenQuasar

            The Muslims that I have met in my life are just like everybody else. My roommate is a Muslim and the ONLY thing he did that can be considered “Muslim” is that he fasted during Ramadan. This was noticed by me because he cooks fine meals and shares them with me a couple of times per week. When he didn’t do this for a few days, I asked him why and he said, “I am fasting. I can hardly wait for Ramadan to end.” He is Nigerian.

            Some acquaintances at the local convenience store are Muslims from Pakistan. I freaked them out once by wishing them happy Eid. The only thing they ever did that was unusual was that occasionally the spoke to each other in Urdu, their native tongue. They also told me that Osama bin Laden died in 2001 as his obituary appeared in Pakistani newspapers.

            Then there was the time I worked at a restaurant that had several Muslim employees from Morocco. Most were normal. However, one of them had a prayer mat and would lay it out in the kitchen and get down on it and pray toward mecca a couple of times a day. One of them was a crack addict and he eventually got fired for this.

            Over a billion people on this planet are Muslims and if you think all those people are full of hate and want to kill Christians and other non-Muslims then you are simply mistaken. Most Muslims are Muslims for the same reasons that most Christians are Christans and this is because their mommas raised them that way and almost everyone around them practices the local religion.

            True, there are fanatics just like there are Christan fanatics, but these are more the exception than the rule.

            I DON’T practice Sharia law! I don’t go to church either, though I was raised as a Christian and I read the Bible twice from cover to cover, because Christianity, just like Islam, is…against my religion, so to speak.

          • Ted Fiorito

            There is no comparison between Christianity and Islam. The Muslim fanatics follow mainstream teachings of the Koran, name me a fanatical Christian following a Christian teaching.
            Christianity does not practice Sharia Law, Islam does! Go learn about The Muslim Brotherhood. Good luck when you’re in the hands of Muslims who give you a choice, join them or die!
            Christians do not murder non Christians unless you go back to the Dark Ages, Islam views non Muslims as infidels and they will execute you if you leave the religion.
            Go study the Battle Of Tours and learn about Muslim Conquest!

          • CitizenQuasar

            “There is no comparison between Christianity and Islam.”
            #1:The very best comparison between Christianity and Islam is that they are BOTH superstitions based on faith, which is the rejection of reason. In keeping with this, BOTH believe that reality is evil and that there is another reality, whose only definition is that it is NOT real, BOTH preach that our bodies are evil and that the self is bad, BOTH offer rewards beyond the grave which can ONLY be achieved by dying, BOTH preach that anyone who does NOT endorse their beliefs is evil and is condemned, BOTH worship an imaginary god that has the personality of a schizophrenic spoiled 9-year old brat. You want to dicker over specific differences.

            “The Muslim fanatics follow mainstream teachings of the Koran, name me a fanatical Christian following a Christian teaching.”
            The Pope.

            “Christianity does not practice Sharia Law, Islam does!”
            See #1 above.

            “Go learn about The Muslim Brotherhood.”
            The Muslim Brotherhood was founded by the Nazis under Adolph Hitler to forward Nazi aims in the Middle East. The Nazis were Christians.

            “Good luck when you’re in the hands of Muslims who give you a choice, join them or die!”
            NOBODY “gives me a choice.” I do NOT need permission from anyone to do anything be it good or bad.

            “Christians do not murder non Christians unless you go back to the Dark Ages,”
            What about the Puritans in colonial America?

            “Islam views non Muslims as infidels…”
            See #1 above.

            “and they will execute you if you leave the religion.”
            Tell that to the peaceable and friendly Muslims that I know. Tell that to Mahmood Al-Yousif…
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmood_Al-Yousif
            http://mahmood.tv/
            Tell that to the one BILLION Muslims whose only hatred for America is that the American military bombs their weddings with (cowardly) drone strikes.

            “Go study the Battle Of Tours and learn about Muslim Conquest!”
            Like the Mreovingian Kings were any less brutal. Go study the Crusades.

          • Ted Fiorito

            Did you not say you were having problems with this page, and I could have the last word days ago? Now you write me a book LOL…
            1. Christians do not view the body, reality or self as evil! However, Christians believe humans are sinners and imperfect. There is a difference!
            2. The Nazis were Christians LOL… They studied the Occult! Research Himmler and Hitler and the Nazi leadership and learn.
            3. The Puritans were in the 1600s that would be 400-500 years ago. The Muslims are a Clear And Present Danger today!
            4. The Pope? I’m not a Catholic but to say the Pope is a fanatic is comical in regard to Islamic terrorism and Sharia Law.
            Now you can have the last word!

          • Ted Fiorito

            You speak only of your so called experiences, go study the Koran and the worldview of Muslims in Saudi Arabia, Syria, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Turkey, Pakistan, Afghanistan and learn what true Islam represents. Sharia Law!

          • CitizenQuasar

            I have personally known people from Saudi Arabia, Iran, Pakistan, and Afghanistan. I speak from direct first hand eye witness personal experience.

            You speak from second hand experience, from hearsay, which is NOT admissible in American courts of law. Have you ever actually met or known any Muslims? Have you talked to them and asked them about their beliefs? About Sharia Law? No, of course NOT. You sit in front of your television and you suck up what the teleprompter readers on the evening news say and you think that is the truth.

          • Ted Fiorito

            You really are ignorant and Wrong! I have traveled and studied in Jordan, Turkey, Israel, and the Saudi Arabian Desert. I know the heart of Islam is conquest, again, get off your lazy rear end and study the Battle Of tours (722) and what lead up to it. Islamic Conquest!

          • CitizenQuasar

            Test

          • Ted Fiorito

            Test ????

          • CitizenQuasar

            I was trying to post a response but DISQUS acts up sometimes. I tried seven 8 times and it wouldn’t post. I shredded the document. Basically all I said was that I fail to see the relevance of the battle of Tours, which I have known about for over thrity years and that I see little relevance to today since it was in 722.

            I could just as well tell you to go study the Crusades or Alexander the Great or Chinn or the Spanish conquest of both the Incas and the Mayans or Attila the Hun.

            Also, since DISQUS is making it so difficult for me to post, and I need my time to work on my book, and I have said enough to be heard, I am through discussing this with you. Go ahead and take the last word.

          • Ted Fiorito

            DISQUS is making it hard for me as well. My point about The Battle Of Tours is that most Westerners know of the Crusades but have no knowledge of the Muslim Conquest that was halted by Charles Martel in Tours. From the conception of Islam I believe Islam has been based on military world conquest. Also, Sharia Law is also a tenet of the Muslim faith that violates human rights unlike the other two main theologies. I’m done!

          • CitizenQuasar

            OK.

          • Ted Fiorito

            I can’t even find the posts so what’s the point?

          • CitizenQuasar

            DISQUS is eating them. I am through with this thread because of that.

          • CitizenQuasar

            I have a response to this, and it does NOT involve profanity or links, but it will NOT post after 6 attempts.

      • Uncle Rufus

        Go take a bath, you smelly bastard.

        • CitizenQuasar

          My oh my. Aren’t you an articulate potty mouth.

          • Jerry

            Your the one with the verbal sewage mouth. Your the one who tries to say sand suckers didn’t cause 911.

      • jaydavis

        At least they don’t use their hands to wipe their butt.

        • CitizenQuasar

          Some of them probably do. They think it makes them look tough.

  • are122

    Bikers are patriots.

  • Brian

    t seems people at this website actually believe inept small plane pilots did 911. It’s obvious Israel’s intelligence agency Mossad did 911, not Muslims. 911 was a false flag.

    Read this stunning article: http://www.mathaba.net/news/?x=622552

    Israel did 911. Christopher Bollyn is offering a free download of his book Solving 9-11: The Deception that Changed the World. A must read. He is one of the best 911 investigators.

    http://www.bollyn.com/public/Solving_9-11_-_The_Deception_That_Changed_The_World.pdf

    • Brian

      This may be hard to believe, however, if you go to the FBI’s website http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/terbinladen.htm

      you will see that Osama bin Laden is wanted for a couple of crimes (flimsy evidence) but not the 911 attacks. When asked why there is no mention of 9/11 on Bin Laden’s Most Wanted web page (30), [Rex Tomb, Chief of Investigative Publicity for the FBI] said, “The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Usama Bin Laden’s Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11.” Obviously the FBI realizes the widely viewed confession tape of Osama bin Laden is phony.

      • CitizenQuasar

        True.

    • CitizenQuasar

      Israel is Kknown to have attacked the USS Liberty in 1967, Israel is known to have killed an American teenager a few mionths ago. Israel has attacked its neighbors almost incessantly and is committing genocide against the Palestinians. Etc. Etc. Etc.

      It is stupid Christians who think that Israel is somehow their imaginary god’s chosen people who fall for the propaganda lies about Muslims. I have worked with Muslims as well as Christians and Hindus. They are just people like everybody else. As a matter of fact, my roommate is a Muslim. I myself am an Objectivist.

      • Uncle Rufus

        Then why do Muslims want to kill anyone who is not Muslim, as prescribed in the Quran?

        • CitizenQuasar

          They don’t. I have a Muslim roommate and he is a VERY friendly man. He has lived with me for over a year and is VERY nice and mannerly.

          • Sulli159

            so were the Boston terrorists…

          • CitizenQuasar

            The entire Boston bombing was a staged false flag event to make an excuse for martial law in Boston. The whole story ios full of easily demonstrable lies and contradictions as the government continues to change its version of that event on an almost daily basis. Paramilitary swine posing as police officers dressed in black locking down an entire city and going from door to door in search of A SINGLE TEENAGER is as un-American as it gets. That Boston allowed this shows that the plum is almost ripe for the picking. Look for soldiers on your street in front of your house soon.

          • Mlm46

            I’m beginning to think you are just a troll here! Stir up the conspiracy theories and laugh at all the answers you elicit!

          • CitizenQuasar
          • CitizenQuasar

            When you say “conspiracy theory” what you mean is “something I find disturbing to me that I do NOT want to know about because it scares me so I will throw out a catch phrase instead of just saying I am afraid and I will hide behind that phrase pretending that it will protect me from the truth.”

            “The truth never lies.”
            —Dr. Judy Wood.

            The truth exists regardless of what you think about it. The truth exists regardless of if you refuse to look at the facts or not. The truth will have a effect your life weather you acknowledge it or not. If I have said anything that is NOT true then please point it out specifically so that I can correct my error(s).

            Yet I know your type. Go turn on “Dancing With the Stars.”

          • Mlm46

            There are a lot of questionable things that have happened in the world, but not EVERYTHING is a conspiracy! I think you are scaring yourself with your theories. “Dancing With the Stars”? You do NOT know my type! Go work on your book!

          • CitizenQuasar

            OK.

          • CitizenQuasar

            “In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way.”
            —Franklin Delano Roosevelt, President of the United States…for 12 years.

          • Mlm46

            Sorry, but it is naive to believe that it is all planned and just happened to come out the way it was intended. Just common sense. Go back to your book, November is fast approaching!

          • CitizenQuasar

            President Roosevelt said that, not me. He was in a position to know…and in that position longer than anyone before or since.

            “November is fast approaching!”
            Yes it is. And my next chapter is going to be a long one, jam packed with information. I am going to get a night’s sleep first. Thank you for reminding me.

          • CitizenQuasar

            BTW: Here’s one from Winston Churchill.

            “Time and the Ocean and some guiding star and High Cabal have made us what we are.”

            Cabal: a secret political clique or faction
            —Oxford English Dictionary

          • CitizenQuasar

            I just couldn’t resist one more. Maybe it’s the coffee as I ran out of decaf and have been drinking the high octane stuff. If you think I am a conspiracy kook, you should check out this guy:

            http://www.gizadeathstar.com/

          • CitizenQuasar

            PS
            It’s always something. For some reason he has his microphone pushed away from his face on this weeks “News and Views.”

          • CitizenQuasar

            BTW: He HATES my guts; really.

          • Jerry

            Are you homos?

          • CitizenQuasar

            No. He has a girlfriend. Are you a homo?

          • Jerry

            No.

          • Mlm46

            Well, I guess that’s the end of it then, because of your one roommate! Wow, glad to hear that! Tell him, Thanks for being so nice.

          • CitizenQuasar

            BTW: He doesn’t eat pork. But neither do Jews nor many Christians.

            He also runs a mile or two several times a week and pumps iron.

            But…uh…just my roomie. What about the other Muslims I mentioned. One of the ones from Morroco had a degree in electrical engineering. He had to work at a restaurant while he perfected his English. He spoke excellent Arabic and French but not many engineering firms in the United States spoke those languages.

            Also BTW: When I worked there I decided to learn some Arabic. I already spoke English, Spanish, and a bit of Russian so I thought what the heck. First of all, Arabic text reads from right to left. Second, the Arabic alphabet is ONLY cursive. Third, one of their letters is pronounced like the English sound of a man choking on a swallowed dry cracker. So I blew it off.

          • Mlm46

            There are a lot of nice people out there from many cultures, but there are also a lot of crazy, brainwashed people that don’t have any regard for anyone else but them or their beliefs. I prefer to stay away from the crazies. Are you one of them? Thought you had to go away for awhile?

          • CitizenQuasar

            “There are a lot of nice people out there from many cultures, but there are also a lot of crazy, brainwashed people that don’t have any regard for anyone else but them or their beliefs.”
            I agree. I get very tired of hearing people blame the world’s problems, and most of its violence, on Muslims. There are over a billion Muslims. Just like Christians, most Muslims are only Muslims because their mothers raised them that way and because almost everybody around them practices the same religion that their dear sweet mom taught them when they were children. It is ridiculous to think that one billion mothers instructed their children in how to hate and kill. Rather, what the mothers did was try to instill in their children principles of love and compassion which are common to ALL religions.

            Except for …uh…the Anton LeVay’s Church of Satan…and they often kill their children as sacrifices. Now THOSE are crazies.

            “I prefer to stay away from the crazies.”
            Me too. I am an advocate of reason and its necessary requirement, rights. A right is a moral principle defining and sanctioning a man’s range of activity in a social environment and this right principle is that a man must never initiate the use of physical force in human interactions.

            “Are you one of them?”
            No.

            “Thought you had to go away for awhile?”
            I do. I am writing a book. It is about the Kennedy assassination. I want to publish it in time to catch the JFK book buying trend before the 50th anniversary roles around on November 22, 2013. I only wrote two chapters this week. I better get cracking. I don’t have the time to get on the internet and type pages and pages debating and going ‘round with people. Laterz.

        • Sulli159

          quasar probably never read the koran in his life:
          take 9:5, commonly referred to as the “Verse of the Sword”, revealed toward the end of Muhammad’s life:
          9:5. Then when the Sacred Months (the 1st, 7th, 11th, and 12th months of the Islamic calendar) have passed, then kill the Mushrikun {unbelievers} wherever you find them, and capture them and besiege them, and prepare for them each and every ambush. But if they repent and perform As-Salat (Iqamat-as-Salat {the Islamic ritual prayers}), and give Zakat {alms}, then leave their way free. Verily, Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
          Having been revealed later in Muhammad?s life than 50:45, 109, and 2:256, the Verse of the Sword abrogates their peaceful injunctions in accordance with 2:106. Sura 8, revealed shortly before Sura 9, reveals a similar theme:
          8:39. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allah) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allah Alone [in the whole of the world]. But if they cease (worshipping others besides Allah), then certainly, Allah is All-Seer of what they do.
          8:67. It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war (and free them with ransom) until he had made a great slaughter (among his enemies) in the land. You desire the good of this world (i.e. the money of ransom for freeing the captives), but Allah desires (for you) the Hereafter. And Allah is All-Mighty, All-Wise.
          9:29. Fight against those who believe not in Allah, nor in the Last Day, nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
          9:33. It is He {Allah} Who has sent His Messenger (Muhammad) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam), to make it superior over all religions even though the Mushrikun (polytheists, pagans, idolaters, disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah) hate (it).
          The Quran’s commandments to Muslims to wage war in the name of Allah against non-Muslims are unmistakable. They are, furthermore, absolutely authoritative as they were revealed late in the Prophet’s career and so cancel and replace earlier instructions to act peaceably. Without knowledge of the principle of abrogation, Westerners will continue to misread the Quran and misdiagnose Islam as a “religion of peace.”

      • Sulli159

        blah blah blah…..Nazi Muslim soldiers exterminated over ten thousands Jews in death camps in Bosnia.

        • CitizenQuasar

          I am sick and fvcking tired of having “The Holocaust” card played. Whatever happened to Jews in Nazi Germany happened over 65 years ago and has NO bearing on what the state of Israel today. Not only were the Jews in Nazi Germany NOT Biblical Jews (the Askenazi were Khazars who converted to Judaism in 802 AD) the present day nation of Israel STOLE the land of Palestine from its inhabitants where Jews had lived side by side with Arabs peaceably for centuries and NOW it is a war machine terrorizing its neighbors with nuclear weapons and committing genocide…and America is footing the bill.

      • Sulli159

        Are you a Nazi; just asking?
        Because you sound exactly like Hitler and Goebbles did in convincing the German people that the Jews were responsible for their troubles. But then again islam made a pact with Hitler in WWII. The muslims had plenty of experience in systematic genocide over the centuries like slaughtering a million and half Armenians. So no doubt they helped trained the Nazis.

        • Kerry Owens

          are you talking about the young turks jewish uprising that killed over a million Armenians?
          are

          • Sulli159

            oh please, the young turks were muslims that invaded Turkey and the Ottoman empire. Talk about brainwash. Even the turks today admitted it and do not want the present day Armenians to have the genocide recognized a a remeberence.

        • CitizenQuasar

          Listen to yourself. The Powers That Be are using the very same game plan they did with Hitler except this time it is the Muslims instead of the Jews.

          As for religions, all of which I reject and all of which require the rejection of reason and the acting on emotive whim, Christianity is responsible for at least as many deaths as Islam. The Nazis were Christians for crying out loud.

          And I am sick and tired of hearing the Holocaust card played every time somebody points out that the present day nation of Israel is nothing but a monstrous war machine that starts wars and commits genocide and expects Americans to send our children to fight and die for and pay for not only with our blod but with our treasure (our hard earned dollars). It saddens me that gullible brainwashed morons like you refuse to wake up and smell the coffee.

          • Sulli159

            no the Nazi were not Christians; anybody can call themselves Christans. Documented proof that the Nazis were Satan worshippers. Just when have we had troops on the ground or send our miltary soldiers to fight and die for the Jews? Interesting you don’t mention Clinton and obama sending in our troops to fight and die in their dastardly illegal wars for violating human rights of the muslims. Germany declared war on us stupid. And I don’t know why you are even on this thread trolling. Go on your Nazi holocaust deniel web site. Don’t think you are going to indoctrinate too many intelligent people here.

          • CitizenQuasar

            “no the Nazi were not Christians; anybody can call themselves Christans.”
            I am willing to bet that there were millions of Nazi party members who attended church on a regular basis all throughout WWII.

            “Documented proof that the Nazis were Satan worshippers.”
            Show me. And I will show you that many American political leaders like George Bush, etc. worship a stone god Molech. Maybe we are making some progress here.

            Just when have we had troops on the ground or send our miltary soldiers to fight and die for the Jews?”
            When the Jews tried to sink the USS Liberty, for one. The entire Israeli war machine, which is the ONLY nuiclear power in the Middle East, is entirely paid for by Amerikan tax dollars. Then there is the war in Iraq which was to “protect” Israel.

            “Interesting you don’t mention Clinton and obama sending in our troops to fight and die in their dastardly illegal wars for violating human rights of the muslims.”

            Clinton is a murderer just like his good friend and former CIA boss George H.W. Bush. The US has NO business interfering in the affairs of other sovereign nations to begin with. There is NO moral justification for it. If you are for it then you grab a gun and get to the front of the line instead of expecting others to do the bleeding for you.

            “Germany declared war on us stupid. And I don’t know why you are even on this thread trolling.”
            I am expressing my opinions like the good American I am. In doing so, I am trying to wake people up to the fact that the entire “War on Terror” is a fake and its real purpose is to enslave the American people.

            “Go on your Nazi holocaust denial web site.”
            I have NEVER been to a “holocaust denial web site.” However I do know that it was NOT near as vast as it is portrayed. I also know that the drum heads and lamp shades that I was told in school in my youth were made out of the human skin of Jews was DNA tested and found to be goat skin.
            I am sick and tired of hearing the holocaust being used as the excuse for American tax dollars to be to support the NUCLEAR ARMED state of Israel as it commits genocide on the Palestinians and inflicts wars on its neighbors.

            “Don’t think you are going to indoctrinate too many intelligent people here.”

            Oh I don’t. This is because there aren’t too many intelligent people here.

          • Mlm46

            You are getting a little sickening now! Your constant belief if we don’t agree with you is a measure of our intelligence? Maybe something happened to you in the military and your mind is screwed up, but you cannot insist that you know all the answers and everyone else is ignorant. Not the way it works. Besides the Nazi’s may have thought they were Christians by going to church and going along with all the church rituals, but they were not true Christians or anything else that can be described as holy and devout! There despicable treatment of their fellowman justifies the war effort and their crushing defeat! Why don’t you write a book if you think you have the answers instead of trolling here!

          • CitizenQuasar

            “You are getting a little sickening now! Your constant belief if we don’t agree with you is a measure of our intelligence?”
            If there is something I have posted that is NOT demonstrable fact then please post it so that I can correct myself. I am always eager to learn. I never stop learning. That’s the way it works.”

            You mean like eighty million of them?

            “Besides the Nazi’s may have thought they were Christians by going to church and going along with all the church rituals, but they were not true Christians or anything else that can be described as holy and devout!” There despicable treatment of their fellowman justifies the war effort and their crushing defeat!”

            “The population of Germany in 1933 was around 60 million. Almost all Germans were Christian, belonging either to the Roman Catholic (ca. 20 million members) or the Protestant (ca. 40 million members) churches. The Jewish community in Germany in 1933 was less than 1% of the total population of the country”
            How did Christians and their churches in Germany respond to the Nazi regime and its laws, particularly to the persecution of the Jews? The racialized anti-Jewish Nazi ideology converged with antisemitism that was historically widespread throughout Europe at the time and had deep roots in Christian history.”

            SOURCE: “United States Holocaust Musem”
            LINK: http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005206

            “Why don’t you write a book if you think you have the answers instead of trolling here!”
            I am writing a book, about the (President) Kennedy assassination. It is increasingly taking my time so that I have less and less time to come here and defend truth and get called a troll by people like you

          • CitizenQuasar

            OK.

          • Sulli159

            “Holocaust card played every time ” Why, you people always bring up the same cookie cutter responses of the Crusades when you can’t answer questions about the genocide of Christians and Jews by the islamic world. The Crusades are “history” the old Holy Roman Empire is gone. Islam has murdered more people that all the wars combined in the history of the world.

          • CitizenQuasar

            I don’t believe you. Please post your breakdown here.

          • CitizenQuasar
      • Kerry Owens

        well said,we are likeminded

    • Sulli159

      Stupid. There were hundreds of Jews murdered at the WTC. Many of them belonging to Canton Fitzgerald a client of a law firm where a member of my familty worked. I lost a family member who was part of the medic team. He went back to rescue people when the tower collasped. So don’t give me your lying 9/11 infowars crap that is invested with muslim supporters. And according to an Jewish translater in Israel warned the US when intercepting Arabic high traffic phone cons. They just wasn’t sure exactly what was taking place.
      And these so called experts you deal with will tell anything stupid to people stupid enough to believe them.

      • http://personalliberty.com/ Alondra

        Brian is lame brained. (Just chenge letters)

        • Sulli159

          Right; he is probably dreaming of those 72 virgins in paradise moohammad promised men in the “afterlife”.

          • http://personalliberty.com/ Alondra

            No more 72 virgins. Lef only one – Helen Thomas.

  • Angermanagement

    Why don’t they go to protest the amnesty crap, that is another group determined to destroy America? That would be a heroic showing of American patriotism and love of country.

  • Doug

    I have been in Washington On Rolling Thunder Day and it’s respectful and well-done.

  • JJBuck

    Wow. Just WOW.