Ron Paul has ‘gone to war with his loyal fan base’

Ron Paul

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Former U.S. Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, champion of the libertarian movement, has “gone to war with his loyal fan base,” according to PolicyMic.

Paul has filed a complaint with the World Intellectual Property Organization — a United Nations agency dedicated to the use of intellectual property — against the authors of RonPaul.com and RonPaul.org.

The move did not sit well with longtime supporters, as noted in an article published on the RonPaul.com and RonPaul.org websites:

“Back in 2007 we put our lives on hold for you, Ron, and we invested close to 10,000 hours of tears, sweat and hard work into this site at great personal sacrifice. We helped raise millions of dollars for you, we spread your message of liberty as far and wide as we possibly could, and we went out of our way to defend you against the unjustified attacks by your opponents. Now that your campaigns are over and you no longer need us, you want to take it all away – and send us off to a UN tribunal?”

Paul had expressed regret about not owning the domain that bears his name in an interview with Alex Jones last month, prompting the owners to reach out “to work out a deal”:

We sent Ron Paul the following respectful offer [View/Download PDF File], explaining that we’d prefer to keep RonPaul.com due to reasons explained in our letter.

At the same time we offered him RonPaul.org as a free gift…

Our offer went on to explain that in case Ron Paul insisted on obtaining RonPaul.com, we would prepare a complete liberty package consisting of RonPaul.com and our mailing list of 170,000 liberty lovers.

The value we put on the deal was $250k; we are getting our mailing list appraised right now but we are confident it is easily worth more than $250k all by itself. Claims that we tried to sell Ron Paul “his name” for $250k or even $800k are completely untrue, and there is little doubt that our mailing list would have enabled Ron Paul to raise several million dollars for the liberty movement this year. It would have been a win/win/win situation for everyone involved.

Paul’s response to the offer, according to the article, was that he “went to the United Nations and is trying to use its legal process related to domain name disputes to actively deport us from our domain names without compensation.”

Stay tuned to see if this proves to be the final chapter for a politician who enjoyed unprecedented levels of adulation from grass-roots supporters, who fervently believed he was a cut above the rest.

 

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Tom Tillison

Tom is a grassroots activist who distinguished himself as one of the top conservative bloggers in Florida before joining BizPac Review.He can be reached at TomTillisonFL@gmail.com
About Tom Tillison

Tom is a grassroots activist who distinguished himself as one of the top conservative bloggers in Florida before joining BizPac Review. He can be reached at TomTillisonFL@gmail.com

  • Rose Johnson

    Sad so sad don't we have enough problems with Obama that we have to create more of them within our own party… At 75 years of age I am dealing with Obama in whatever way I can. Look grow up and play the same game otherwise you will loose. In God's name keep faith & hope.

  • Kathleen Taylor Adam

    This is an example of why Ron Paul was not a good candidate…he's just a little whackey, like Ross Perot…Being right is not always something you want to shove down your friends throats…I think he's right…but didn't he think ahead of what they would try to make of it?? and how they would actually get people to believe them…sometimes you win the battle and lose the war…Ron Paul never learned that….

  • Andy

    Badly written article. You're clearly using this story as a hit piece on Dr. Paul, Tom.

    ronpaul.com has already made thousands off of Dr. Paul's name. Now they want 250k. You're taking the idiotic path of blaming Paul for human greed. He's stated he wants to get into social media, maybe do some streams, and get his own site going. Why shouldn't he be able to use 'ronpaul.com' as this site?

    The supporters running the site should be glad they've already made money. They should have been willing to hand over the site; there would have been no legal issues.

    Instead, they complain about wanting money, and fools like you use a story you know little about as a weak hit piece. Try to research more before you write about something.

  • http://facebook.com/jkellenberger jim

    Just hand the site over to the guy. I wonder how he allowed this to happen to begin with. Probably a well though out scam from the get go. They have a lot of nerve asking for money.

    • Chuck Marshall

      Ron was busy trying to save our nation from the statists. These guys were not trying to help him, just make a profit. Sadly, Tom is helping to continue the split of the party by highlighting a legal case that is brought all the time when someone grans a domain name. Let the courts work out who "owns" what.

  • http://johnnyangeladvocacygroup.net JohnnyAngel Advocacy

    Very egotistical is the best way to describe Paul. If we didn't have such a conglomerate of political "fruit-loops" on both sides of the aisle, Paul would not have been a factor. That's the truth,believe it or be deceived!

  • Tuck

    And btw, if you live in other country, you can't donate your money to Ron Paul during presidential Candidate. I have been in Canada for quite sometime, I still can't even donate to him.

    Do you seriously think all those money he claims for Ron Paul and work hard for actually got to him?

    What a bullshit claim that he's a "loyal donator" and support his finance. Who support who?

    Ron Paul's podcast – Ron Paul's

    Ron Paul's speech – Ron Paul's

    Ron Paul's face – Ron Paul's

    Can’t believe you guys are seriously trying to extort RonPaul for 250K and then are surprised when he goes above your head to the place he has to, to give you the big FU. Which you deserve. If you don’t see that, then you are crazy. And how much money have you MADE off his name selling all this Ron Paul gear? Continue all efforts to reach out to Dr. Paul directly. Assume there are many parasites still around him, trying to blunt his effectiveness and disenchant his followers. Remember the neocon Republicans planted many subversives in his organization to undermine his efforts and our enthusiasm. We saw some of these people in action during the primaries. There will be constant false flag operations.

    When the current owners of this site, registered and purchased the domain name RonPaul.com and other various ‘RonPaul’ domain types, they agreed (ignorantly) to a contract. This contract in so many words states that when registering a domain name, you are saying that the domain name itself doesn’t infringe on the rights of a third party and that you agree to arbitration if the said third party, submits a claim which is explained within a policy called Uniform Domain Name Dispute Resolution Policy (UDRP). Examples of some claims include bad-faith and mark infringement (which is what Ron Paul states within his UDRP claim).

    The reason why he’s going to the UN (the WIPO agency more specifically) for this is because ICANN has authorized them to perform certain services for individuals with regards to domain names, one including submitting arbitration services. Considering Ron Paul has met the the criteria of common law trademark rights and Ron Paul is the owner of the Ron Paul U.S. trademark, then he’s following the correct (and required) process in filing a complaint and has complete legal standing to do so.

    The people that registered RonPaul.com apparently didn’t read the ICANN policies associated with registering a domain name or else they would have known that RonPaul.com and the other various flavors of RonPaul[dot]whatever, effective the date of registration, falls under the UDRP and is subject to all requirements that were agreed upon. The registers’ voluntary agreement to the contract set forth within the ICANN and UDRP is free market at it’s best; which any true libertarian should be grateful for. If it had been a government entity that governed ICANN like they did in the past, they’d probably be thrown in jail and slapped with many felony charges, including being sued for an outlandish amount of money.

    Ron Paul isn’t doing anything nasty here. He’s not even going after them for money, or attempting to sue for damages, etc…he’s simply asking them for the domain names that are rightfully his via the contract the registers’ agreed to when registering the domain names applicable to the RonPaul trademark.

    When ronpaul.com was purchased it came under law governed by ICANN. There is no way avoiding this FACT even if one was in ignorance of the law at the time of the domain purchase.

    Read the complaint. Tim Martin is seeking undue enrichment, clearly, from the use of Ron Paul’s name. It really is that simple.

    When you register a domain, in accordance with ICANN policies, you warrant that you’re not infringing on the rights of a third party and also agree to arbitration if a third party submits a claim. This arbitration process is outlined in what’s called the Uniform Domain-Name Dispute-Resolution Policy, or UDRP, and includes certain criteria such as trademark infringement and “bad faith”, both of which RP seems to be focusing on in his UDRP complaint. The WIPO, a UN agency, is one of several organizations authorized by ICANN to offer this arbitration service for a fee.

    http://www.ronpaul.com/images/Complaint.pdf

  • Adam Raisch

    I agree Tuck,

    I must say that I was a little put off when I first read that Ron filed a suite with the UN but, I then realized that Ron is not anti law and if the UN is the overseeing organization for the resolution of such laws than what other action should he take?

    This reminded me of a personal experience of mine that occurred roughly 6 years ago. A college friend of mine made it to the final group of contestants on American Idol. I immediately thought about opening a website to support his run and to make a profit off of the sale of T-shirts and other perifinalia. After researching the law I discovered the "first in use" clause for trademarking and the other laws concerning namesake trademarking, I realized very quickly that their were a lot of liabilities for perusing this avenue of wealth and, not being able to contact the former friend, I discontenued my persuite.

    Ron Paul has spent many a year promoting an ideal which has made him famous and others have no right to ride his coat tails (squatters). I have little doubt that they have profited more from RonPaul.com then they added to his cause. Someone in this argument is trying to make a dollar and someone is trying to continue their incredible Constitutional agenda. If Ron Paul had an agenda contrary to his promoted beliefs he would be suing these guys for past profits from his namesake (which I might add he has the legal right to do).

  • Wallace

    He's not "at war" with his supporters — he has a problem with websites that are using his name to make money.

    We should at least own our names. That's not too hard to understand.

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  • John Galt

    "Loyal Fan Base", my ass! Ronpaul.com is not a fan-based site. It's owned and run by one person, Tim Martin, a money-making opportunist, who's made thousands off Ron Paul's good name, selling Ron Paul merchandise without giving him a cent for royalties.

    Now, he's trying to extort hundreds of thousands of dollars from Dr. Paul by selling his domain name back to him. This is criminal behavior, folks… plain and simple.